From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Why Ice-9? 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(unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B249FC461B; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote.localdomain (unknown [83.44.191.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF533C4619; Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:17:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8739vprull.fsf@ambire.localdomain> (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:07:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 18E6F158-8EC4-11DF-843F-9056EE7EF46B-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:10656 Archived-At: On Mon 12 Jul 2010 10:07, Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > () ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) > () Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:17:07 +0200 > > =E2=80=98system=E2=80=99 may be more risky in that respect. =E2=80=98= guile=E2=80=99 would have been a > better choice, but I=E2=80=99m afraid it=E2=80=99s too late (in theory= it isn=E2=80=99t, but...). > > Thoughts? > > Perhaps we can start discussing "directory aliases", a feature whereby > (foo bar baz) can be specified to resolve (perhaps in multiple steps) > to (actual baz). We alias only directories, not full module names, to > avoid having to deal with =E2=80=98%load-extensions=E2=80=99. There are also submodule binders, in git guile, that can be used to implement this. > - Module name directory part (of aliases, of fully-resolved)=20 > must be non-empty? > > - Will dealing with =E2=80=98%load-extensions=E2=80=99 be in the future p= lans? > > - Where/how to store alias info. Can this mechanism be unified > with one for resolved modules (e.g., Guile 1.4.x module catalogs)? I don't understand the problem solved by these things; I would need more details to comment, I think. Andy --=20 http://wingolog.org/