From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: i guess we're frozen & stuff Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:16:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <818775.61320.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249938990 23140 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2009 21:16:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel To: Mike Gran Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 10 23:16:23 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MacE6-0006sD-Ki for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:16:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41240 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MacE5-0005CE-BU for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MacDi-00056B-Ka for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:15:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MacDd-00051f-93 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44310 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MacDd-00051Y-3O for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:63202 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MacDc-0006qw-RY for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:15:48 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426155A4; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote (unknown [79.156.145.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85D9455A3; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:15:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <818775.61320.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Mike Gran's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:08:15 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F8DA9D90-85F2-11DE-B208-EAC21EFB4A78-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:9051 Archived-At: Hi Mike, On Mon 10 Aug 2009 23:08, Mike Gran writes: >> Today's the 10th, we release on the 15th, ergo we're frozen. > > Hmmm.=C2=A0 I should have been watching the clock.=C2=A0 I've left master= in > an odd state w.r.t. strings and chars.=C2=A0 The storage is available for > non-8-bit strings and chars, but, nothing can be done with them. Well, I think a certain amount of disrespect for temporal prescriptions is healthy. Should you manage to push something tomorrow that makes things monotonically more awesome, I don't think anyone would object :) The positive effect of this cyclic rhythm is that it allows us to coordinate our efforts -- we're managing our expectations. The corollary being, don't mess up Ludovic's expectations of a great release with a half-baked push :) >> What does this mean? Well I think the dilly is that we shouldn't be >> pushing to master, except to fix things that don't work at all, and to >> update documentation, NEWS, etc. > > Do test-suite tests count? Tests are welcome! Cheers, Andy --=20 http://wingolog.org/