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From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Doc organization (Re: Around again, and docs lead role)
Date: 08 May 2003 23:57:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m38ythqc75.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86wuh12yuc.fsf@520000401788.dialin.t-online.de>

>>>>> "Max" == Max Techter <mtechter@gmx.de> writes:

    >> My latest thinking is that we could be a lot more concrete, even
    >> proscriptive, about what Guile is for and how people should use it,
    >> and that if we did so it would be a lot easier to clearly assess the
    >> state of the documentation and to finish it off.  

    >> (Right now, IMO, it is difficult even to describe the
    >> documentation status.)

    Max>      My first impression was: 
    Max>         Oops...
    Max>         such an important project, but obviously
    Max>         abandoned...

I don't see how you can conclude that the project is abandoned when
we're right in the middle of a thread about it ....
     
    Max>      I typically look out for a tutorial, immediately 
    Max>      after installation. Not to learn, but to find out:
     
    Max>         is this something for me? 

Did you look at the Guile Tutorial?  How would you improve it?

    >> , I think the natural high level documentation structure
    >> would then be:
    >> 

    Max>      I am missing, things like: [...]

I agree, and some of these pieces are already in place - see the Guile
Reference manual.  But I was really focussing on the issue of Scheme
and C API documentation in my last message.
     
    >> - Scheme reference documentation - more or less like the current Part
    >> IV, but Scheme only, not C.

    >> - Task-based documentation describing everything needed for aspects of
    >> interfacing with C code:

    Max>         Task based structuring the meat of the documentation
    Max>         is an idea I like, Neil.
        
    Max>         That`s what we use software for: 
    Max>                 Solving Tasks 
    Max>                 (beside for having incredible fun, of cause =:)

OK, but given a general purpose language like Scheme, there's a limit
to how fully you can document it in a task-based way.  For Scheme you
need a combination of reference documentation and examples.

The C API on the other hand - at least as I think we should see it -
is not general purpose.  It has the specific job of interfacing C to
Scheme and so can be fully covered in a task-based way.

Thanks for your thoughts,

        Neil



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-08 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-26  7:33 Around again, and docs lead role Neil Jerram
2003-04-26 10:19 ` Thamer Al-Harbash
2003-04-27 20:56   ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]   ` <3E92E1B40021F4D7@pop3.tiscalinet.es>
2003-04-27 21:01     ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]       ` <3E92E1B4002B0632@pop3.tiscalinet.es>
2003-04-30 22:47         ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]           ` <3EAFE4EC000D9733@pop1.tiscalinet.es>
2003-05-07 21:06             ` Doc organization (Re: Around again, and docs lead role) Neil Jerram
2003-05-08 16:21               ` Rob Browning
2003-05-08 17:50                 ` rm
2003-05-08 22:47                   ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-08 21:18                 ` Wolfgang Jaehrling
2003-05-08 22:36                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-09  2:23                   ` Rob Browning
2003-05-09 17:46                     ` David Van Horn
2003-05-10 11:32                     ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-15 16:02                       ` Rob Browning
2003-05-15 16:33                         ` Paul Jarc
2003-05-08 16:21               ` Max Techter
     [not found]                 ` <3EB9828B00021495@pop1.tiscalinet.es>
2003-05-08 21:12                   ` Max Techter
2003-05-27  2:02                     ` Max Techter
2003-05-08 22:57                 ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2003-05-09 12:32                   ` Max Techter
2003-05-09  8:15               ` tomas
2003-05-10 12:01                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-12 11:40                   ` tomas
2003-05-12 16:46 ` Around again, and docs lead role Max Techter
2003-05-12 20:25   ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-13 14:14     ` Max Techter
2003-05-13 19:56       ` Neil Jerram

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