From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Neil Jerram Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Adding stuff to the core distro (was Re: Infix syntax) Date: 08 Oct 2002 22:51:32 +0100 Sender: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034115732 20851 127.0.0.1 (8 Oct 2002 22:22:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17z2Zs-0004vV-00 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 00:11:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17z2YU-0006PV-00; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:10:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17z2Xv-00068l-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17z2Xt-00068a-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:09:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.uklinux.net ([80.84.72.21] helo=s1.uklinux.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17z2Xs-00068W-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:09:40 -0400 Original-Received: from portalet.ossau.uklinux.net (ppp-0-92.lond-b-1.access.uk.tiscali.com [80.40.0.92]) by s1.uklinux.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g98M9bS14419; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:09:38 +0100 Original-Received: from laruns.ossau.uklinux.net.ossau.uklinux.net (laruns.ossau.uklinux.net [192.168.1.3]) by portalet.ossau.uklinux.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.2 (i386)) with ESMTP id D1774C15; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: Daniel Skarda <0rfelyus@ucw.cz> Original-Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Errors-To: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1483 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1483 >>>>> "0" == Daniel Skarda <0rfelyus@ucw.cz> writes: >> This looks nice! If no one objects by mid tomorrow, I will add it to >> CVS. Have you signed assignment and disclaimer papers that cover >> this? 0> Thank you. In fact I am quite surprised that this patch went in so smoothly. 0> - it introduces new syntax 0> - once you use-module and activate-infix, infix syntax is active in all 0> modules, not only in module where it was activated. I was aware of this. However, we already have modules with the identical issue in CVS, like (srfi srfi-10). And we already have the issues of xxx-options (e.g. (read-options 'prefix)) and, e.g., (current-input-port) being global -- which, at least to my mind, are in the same category. And, all these issues are somewhat hypothetical until someone reports them causing a significant practical problem -- I don't believe anyone has done so yet. Taking all this into account, I didn't think that incorporating (ice-9 infix) created any new issue. Also, the nice requirement to `(activate-infix)' as well as `(use-modules (ice-9 infix)' gives a strong hint that something global is happening (just like `(activate-readline)'). On the other hand... Rob has raised the question of whether we should be adding things to the core distro that don't strictly need to be there, so perhaps we should stop for a moment to consider our principles on this point. I'm not sure what to suggest, myself. Seems to me that one extreme is the Emacs approach - basically bundle everything. The convenience of the opposite extreme depends on what kind of package repository system (aka GUMM) we can create. Any clarifying ideas, anyone? 0> I do not want to undermine my own patch - I am happy it is 0> accepted, though I was surprised there was no exhausting 0> discussion (or flamewar :-) Well, maybe we can have a flamewar now ... :-) Neil _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel