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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using libunistring for string comparisons et al
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:50:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m37hbh544c.fsf@unquote.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lj0bi4qs.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:06:51 -0400")

On Sat 19 Mar 2011 15:06, Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:

> Let me ask you this: why would you oppose changing the scm_c_ functions
> to use UTF-8 by default?  If you're comfortable with ASCII-only names,
> then UTF-8 will work fine for you, since ASCII strings are unchanged in
> UTF-8.

This is true.  Well, I think UTF-8 is the Right Thing, but it is
complicated.  This discussion reminds me of the luserspace problem from
Worse is Better ;-)

I think I was clinging to ASCII because C is ASCII.  No one is clamoring
for "if" in Spanish, much less katakana identifiers.  I was thinking
that since we could not reap the benefits, why bother paying the cost.
But you have a good point that that might change in the future; who
knows?

If we do switch to UTF-8 in 2.2, though, then there's no real cost;
there's only benefits.  So perhaps we should just stop worrying about
potential costs, and learn to love the benefits (!), and just do the
UTF-8 thing.

I'm still being a little cagey in these replies as I haven't gotten to
the end of the thread yet :)

Andy
-- 
http://wingolog.org/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-12 21:28 Using libunistring for string comparisons et al Mike Gran
2011-03-15 17:20 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-15 20:39   ` Mike Gran
2011-03-15 22:49     ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-16  0:01       ` Mike Gran
2011-03-16  1:12         ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-16 11:26           ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-17 15:38             ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-17 15:56               ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-17 17:58                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-18  0:10                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-03-18  1:38                     ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-18  8:46                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-03-18 12:05                         ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-20 22:12                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-30 10:14                     ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-17 21:47           ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-19 12:31           ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-19 14:06             ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-19 14:53               ` Noah Lavine
2011-03-19 15:49                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-19 15:08               ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-19 19:43                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-19 16:37               ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-20 21:49               ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-30  9:50               ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2011-03-29 12:39             ` Peter Brett
2011-03-29 13:35               ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-29 21:15               ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-31 14:59                 ` Peter Brett
2011-03-31 20:12                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-30  9:33       ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-16  0:22     ` Alex Shinn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-17 18:07 Mike Gran
2011-03-16 15:22 Mike Gran
2011-03-16 16:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-16  2:03 Mike Gran
2011-03-16  1:30 Mike Gran
2011-03-11  0:54 uc_tolower (uc_toupper (x)) Mike Gran
2011-03-11 22:33 ` Using libunistring for string comparisons et al Mark H Weaver
2011-03-11 22:36   ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-11 23:09   ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-12 13:46     ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-12 17:28       ` Mark H Weaver
2011-03-13 21:30         ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-30  9:05           ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-30  9:03     ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-31 14:19       ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-12 13:36   ` Ludovic Courtès

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