From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Skarda <0rfelyus@ucw.cz> Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Debian packages (Re: What can I do to help?) Date: 04 Oct 2002 20:46:59 +0200 Sender: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20020928105825.A8084@ns.jfreebies.com> <87adluryz2.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033761600 29870 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 20:00:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xYcA-0007lY-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:59:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xYcG-0008Me-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 16:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xYbm-0007w6-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xYbl-0007vm-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: from stateless1.tiscali.cz ([213.235.135.70] helo=mail.tiscali.cz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xYbk-0007vZ-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:59:32 -0400 Original-Received: from hobitin.ucw.cz (212.90.228.96) by mail.tiscali.cz (6.0.044) id 3D771DDB005062C7; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:35:14 +0200 Original-Received: from 0rfelyus by hobitin.ucw.cz with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 17xXTX-0000VQ-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 20:46:59 +0200 Original-To: Rob Browning In-Reply-To: <87adluryz2.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> Original-Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Errors-To: guile-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1449 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1449 Hello, Rob Browning writes: > Daniel Skarda <0rfelyus@ucw.cz> writes: > > While I was browsing list of Debian packages, I noticed many > > packages of development beta versions (sometimes even checkouts from > > CVS). Though there was not package for libguile1.7. I do not > > understand this "message" Guile developers want to send to potential > > Guile users :-(please do not use Guile?) > > How about the message: "please do not use (and link applications > against) development versions of guile". I am sorry for my provocative and ungrateful writing. It seems I have to learn how to write Debian packages so I could help and stop groaning. I have not look in /usr/share/doc/ and I thought that guile*.deb packages are lonely orphans. Thank you for maintaining guile packages. But I do not agree with you that Guile development versions should be hidden from outside world. It should be released, but clearly marked as a development version, which is unstable and it possible that its interface change in future. When fool shoots himself in his leg, even thought he was clearly warned, it is his fault. If you want to think of all ways how fool can shoot himself in leg and try to prevent it, it is very likely you spend a lot of time and resources, but at the end you fail (and possibly you as a side effect prevent other people to do something useful). IMHO to release a package for Guile development development version gives a message: "Hey, this is new and exciting development version. It is unstable and dangerous, but if you are brave enough, feel free to test it and join Guile development." More eyes see more bugs and more brains have more ideas (however crazy :-) 0. ps: I have quickly browsed through CVS workbook directory but have I not seen any schedule of 1.7.x development branch. What features will go to particular 1.7.x versions etc. ps: Installing different guile versions with same prefix would cause conflicts. Are you going to use same "strategy" as Gtk+? (usr/include/gtk-1.2, /u/i/gtk-2.0 etc..) _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel