From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marius Vollmer Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Should we distribute libltdl? Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:53:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sm37vt8g.fsf@zagadka.de> <200503071751.02839.bkorb@veritas.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110302476 1874 80.91.229.2 (8 Mar 2005 17:21:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 18:21:15 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D8iH4-0003Nv-Q4 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:13:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D8iVZ-0001DV-V9 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:28:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D8iRU-0007k6-TC for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:24:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D8iRT-0007ja-Sc for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D8iNi-0006Ll-6c for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:20:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [129.217.163.1] (helo=mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D8hxm-0003lA-Mh for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:53:43 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078D244024; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:53:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (krusty [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29111-03-4; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:53:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from troy.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (troy.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.17]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678AB44023; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:53:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by troy.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 520) id 2734FB89A; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:53:35 +0100 (CET) Original-To: bkorb@veritas.com In-Reply-To: <200503071751.02839.bkorb@veritas.com> (Bruce Korb's message of "Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:51:02 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:4830 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:4830 Bruce Korb writes: > My opinion: the more impediments to installation that there are > results in more folks deciding that it isn't worth the bother. > I really hate downloading a package only to find that there's > a bunch of other stuff to find, download and install first. Yes, but I think Guile is very reasonable with its "bunch of other stuff". It only really requires libgmp and libltdl. The versions of these that are in the mainstream distributions should suffice. Also, the question right is not whether should rely on libltdl, it is whether we should distribute libltdl and automatically install it when needed. That is, should Guile say "You don't seem to have libltdl, I will quietly install it for you." or should it say loudly "You don't seem to have libltdl, please install it, for example from ..."? On Debian, for example, it would be much cleaner to "apt-get install libltdl3-dev" instead of letting Guile install libltdl into /usr/local/lib, say. _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel