From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Han-Wen Nienhuys Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: RFD: please drop ChangeLog updates Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:11:27 -0300 Message-ID: References: <21676570.1219941008413.JavaMail.root@web20> <20080829124634.1587@Pirx.gnu.org.ua> <87zlmvfvcv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d4jqpcrm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220123599 32587 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2008 19:13:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:13:19 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 21:14:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZVth-0004ip-Nx for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:14:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50482 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZVsi-00030a-Tq for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZVsZ-0002wD-Jf for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:12:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZVsX-0002ue-TC for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:12:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39562 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZVsX-0002ua-OZ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:59253 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZVsX-0004eK-Aq for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KZVsU-00053f-M0 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:12:54 +0000 Original-Received: from 201.80.3.52 ([201.80.3.52]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:12:54 +0000 Original-Received: from hanwen by 201.80.3.52 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:12:54 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 201.80.3.52 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080723) In-Reply-To: <87d4jqpcrm.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:7541 Archived-At: Ludovic Courtès escreveu: > Hey! > > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> Ludovic Courtès escreveu: > >>> That said, the ideal would be something like `add-change-log-entry' that >>> operates on Git logs instead of ChangeLogs, but there doesn't seem to be >>> anything like this. DVC is said to support things like that, but it >>> doesn't seem to be well documented. >> Try magit (by Marius Vollmer, our previous overlord). It lets you create >> commits by marking individual patch hunks. > > I wasn't aware of that, but I just gave it a try and it seems to rock! > The doc is also nice. Good to hear from Marius! ;-) > > Then I guess I'm happy to abolish ChangeLogs. Two questions remain: > > 1. Should we remove ChangeLog files from the repo? > 2. Should we generate ChangeLogs for releases? > > I'd say "yes" to (1) and "no" to (2). That would be a departure from > the GNU Standards, but perhaps it's a sign of their age. I'd say no (1). The information in ChangeLog and commit message can diverge, so deleting them may remove information. I recommend keeping them around, Perhaps in a directory in with historic files, or marking them as THESE CHANGELOGS ARE NO LONGER UPDATED in screaming letters at the top. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - hanwen@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen