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From: "Linus Björnstam" <linus.bjornstam@veryfast.biz>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Patch] definitions in when, unless, do as well as in cond- and case-clauses
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:45:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f2803996-0275-4bec-942b-9997a6f0be19@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yf+Ul8isqI6ytKcz@tuxteam.de>

You need to use ,optimize. 

-- 
  Linus Björnstam

On Sun, 6 Feb 2022, at 10:27, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 06, 2022 at 07:44:31AM +0100, Linus Björnstam wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, at 18:31, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote:
>> > Hmm this was wrong, I mean
>> >
>> > For conditional variables we have a default begin. So then why on earth 
>> > do you not have an implicit let?, Just laziness?
>> > There should  be a good reason or? this is a pretty fundamental change 
>> > that I support but then we should not be lazy not trying to understand 
>> > the design choices of the old beards.
>> 
>> In other languages let starts a new lexical context which can be expensive. I don't know guile internals but a let without any defines is trivially converted to a begin by the optimizer.
>
> It seems that in Guile 3 the expander is smart enough for an empty
> bindings list in let:
>
> | tomas@trotzki:~$ guile
> | GNU Guile 3.0.7.6-22120
> | Copyright (C) 1995-2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>
> [...]
>
> | scheme@(guile-user)> ,expand (let () (message #t "Yikes"))
> | $1 = (message #t "Yikes")
> | scheme@(guile-user)> ,expand (let ((x 3)) (message #t "Yikes ~S" x))
> | $2 = (let ((x 3)) (message #t "Yikes ~S" x))
>
> ...but doesn't "see" whether bindings are actually used (quite possibly
> those go away in a later optimisation phase, though):
>
> | scheme@(guile-user)> ,expand (let ((x 3)) (message #t "Yikes"))
> | $3 = (let ((x 3)) (message #t "Yikes"))
>
> Cheers
> -- 
> t
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-06  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-16 19:11 [Patch] definitions in when, unless, do as well as in cond- and case-clauses Linus Björnstam
2021-06-17  9:06 ` Maxime Devos
2021-06-17 12:57   ` Linus Björnstam
2021-06-17 13:54     ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-03 10:48 ` Linus Björnstam
     [not found]   ` <CAGua6m1Cqe=aLOD7-jfzoqxP1aOxvWn3=UgcKyk+Dx7_51Bq3w@mail.gmail.com>
2022-02-04 20:11     ` Fwd: " Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-04 20:58       ` Maxime Devos
     [not found]         ` <CAGua6m11r27x=rq4S4fF09vHY+S-Az7GOZfmoT41hEBDSkLJQg@mail.gmail.com>
2022-02-04 21:40           ` Fwd: " Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-04 23:39           ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-05  1:14             ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-05 10:55               ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-05 17:31                 ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-05 17:36                   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06  6:44                   ` Linus Björnstam
2022-02-06  9:27                     ` tomas
2022-02-06  9:40                       ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06  9:45                       ` Linus Björnstam [this message]
2022-02-06 10:48                         ` tomas
2022-02-06 20:13                           ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-06 20:28                             ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 20:31                               ` tomas
     [not found]                               ` <CAGua6m3BHMXOhT3PHZcxdqHqHomTFESO31j5CcSNK3pbA7K-Kg@mail.gmail.com>
2022-02-06 21:26                                 ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-06 21:27                                   ` Maxime Devos
2022-02-07  5:56                             ` Linus Björnstam

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