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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>,
	Matt Wette <matt.wette@gmail.com>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add language/wisp to Guile?
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 00:06:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ece631e3-8b04-d538-1d8d-fd09fc8562cb@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsb5i912.fsf@web.de>


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On 16-02-2023 22:38, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> 
> Matt Wette <matt.wette@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> You may be interested in the load-lang patch I generated a few years ago
>> to allow file-extension based loading, in addition to '#lang elisp"
>> type hooks.
>>
>> https://github.com/mwette/guile-contrib/blob/main/patch/3.0.8/load-lang.patch
> 
> @Maxime: Is this something you’d be interested in championing?

For the '#lang whatever stuff', no:

The '#lang whatever' stuff makes Scheme (*) files unportable between 
implementations, as '#lang scheme' is not a valid comment -- there exist 
Schemes beyond Guile and Racket.  If it were changed to recognising
'-*- mode: scheme -*-' or '-*- language: scheme -*-' or such, it would 
be better IMO, but insufficient, because (^).

(*) Same argument applies for some, but not all, other non-Scheme 
languages too.

I'm assuming you don't meant the '%file-extension-map' stuff, because of 
your previous ‘[...] and also to avoid stumbling over files that just 
take that extension’ response to the proposal for such a thing.  Even if 
you meant that, (^) also applies.

(^) it doesn't integrate with the module system -- more concretely, 
(use-modules (foo)) wouldn't try loading foo.js -- adding '-x' arguments 
would solve that, but we agree that that would be unreasonable in many 
situations.  (Alternatively one could place ECMAScript code in a file 
with extension '.scm' with a '#lang' / '-*- mode: ecmascript -*-', but 
... no.)

Aside from the '#lang ...' -> '-*- language: scheme -*-' stuff, I think 
the idea behind the patch is good (**) -- it solves the problem it aims 
to solve, AFAICT.  However, this problem is not the module system 
problem that Wisp currently has.

As such, I suppose you could say that I would 'champion' the patch on 
its own, but not champion it in relation to '[PATCH] add language/wisp 
to Guile'.

(**) It needs some documentation though.

Greetings,
Maxime.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-03 21:26 [PATCH] add language/wisp to Guile? Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-04 15:08 ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-04 15:46   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-04 19:09     ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-04 21:35       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-05 15:08         ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-14  8:32           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-14 21:24             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-14 23:01               ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-15  1:46                 ` Matt Wette
2023-02-16 21:38                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-17  1:26                     ` Matt Wette
2023-02-23 11:36                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-02-23 17:48                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-23 18:42                         ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-24 15:45                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-02-24 16:34                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-08 10:34                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-05-01  9:54                                 ` [PATCH] add SRFI-119 / language/wisp to Guile? (new patch, squashed) Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-10 16:40                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-06-12 10:22                                     ` Maxime Devos
2023-08-10  6:28                                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-08-14 20:11                                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-08-14 20:30                                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-08-14 22:43                                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-08-18 10:29                                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-08-18 12:16                                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-08-18 17:50                                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-09-08 17:46                                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-05 14:10                                                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-10 23:04                                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-27 22:05                                                     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-01-09  7:05                                                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-01-19  8:21                                                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-03-11  1:16                                                           ` [PATCH] add SRFI-119 / language/wisp to Guile? (new patch with more tests, squashed) Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-01-19 12:10                                                         ` [PATCH] add SRFI-119 / language/wisp to Guile? (new patch, squashed) Christina O'Donnell
2024-01-19 21:37                                                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-01-19 21:47                                                             ` Christina O'Donnell
2024-01-20 11:01                                                               ` Damien Mattei
2024-01-20 19:18                                                                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-01-20 22:59                                                                   ` Damien Mattei
2024-01-20 23:22                                                                     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-01-21 23:21                                                                       ` Damien Mattei
2024-01-19 23:56                                                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-24 23:48                             ` [PATCH] add language/wisp to Guile? Maxime Devos
2023-02-24 23:51                               ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-25  0:15                                 ` Matt Wette
2023-02-25 10:42                                   ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-17 23:06                     ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2023-02-18  3:50                       ` Philip McGrath
2023-02-18 15:58                         ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-18 19:56                           ` Matt Wette
2023-02-21 12:09                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-26  7:45                           ` Philip McGrath
2023-02-26 15:42                             ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-26 16:14                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-26 17:58                               ` Matt Wette
2023-02-26 18:03                                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-26 18:20                                   ` Matt Wette
2023-02-26 21:39                                     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-02 14:59                             ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2023-10-02 21:46                               ` guile support for multiple languages [was: [PATCH] add language/wisp to Guile?] Matt Wette
2023-02-23  7:59                         ` [PATCH] add language/wisp to Guile? Maxime Devos
2023-02-23  8:51                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-23 18:04                             ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-23 18:22                               ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-23 18:36                               ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-23 18:37                               ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-15  8:36                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-15 20:13                   ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-16  7:01                     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-16  8:03   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-16 11:30     ` Maxime Devos
2023-02-16 21:35       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-09-30 13:17 ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2023-09-30 20:09   ` Maxime Devos
2023-10-02 14:48     ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
     [not found] <mailman.886.1677397547.13386.guile-devel@gnu.org>
2023-02-26 11:02 ` Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
2023-02-26 23:22   ` Philip McGrath
2023-02-27  5:00     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-02-27  7:26     ` Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen
2023-02-28  4:27       ` Philip McGrath
2023-02-28  6:57         ` Marc Nieper-Wißkirchen

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