Re: New logo and website design proposal

[Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche@hypermove.net>]

Le 2015-09-17 16:59, Luis Felipe López Acevedo a écrit :
> On 2015-09-16 03:19, Alex Sassmannshausen wrote:
>> Beautiful!
>> 
>> Like Chris, I love the demographically agnostic, yet incredibly 
>> inviting
>> drawings.  I also love the overall crisp and modern feel to the whole
>> site including the proposed new logos.
>> 
>> Fantastic :-)

+1, I really like the design, I find it well done and welcoming except 
the
following...

> 
> I also read on IRC that someone said the drawings were childish.
> 

Some one corrected me. What I mean is that it doesn't look **serious** 
enough
in the sens that the drawings would fit way better a tutorial about 
Guile that targets
children. And I think, it's better to save those drawings that and come 
with other
illustrations/photos that are more explicit about each topic.

There should be a better place between "corporate/megacorp", "chilren 
friendly", "academics"
and "startup" designs. Maybe if the toons had a gnu/friendly 
monster/robot
face instead of human faces it will look less "primary school". Like I 
said
the drawing, I'm wondering whether it's for the correct audience.

Some comments on other webites:

- python.org, djangoproject.com, and rust-lang.org look to too 
impersonnal/dull

- ruby-lang is simple and impersonnal but I think the logo makes it work 
great

- kivy.org is really well made

- http://elm-lang.org/ nice, not too dull

Really the design is really well made, no problem with that, I just want 
to be sure
that we won't disappoint the main audience and attract a lot of newsbies 
which i think
we are not ready for.

If I can vote, I will +0.

I other comments, I think that:

- The header menu should use the same ordering as the guix header menu

- It should have bulllet points (!) something like 
https://www.rust-lang.org/
   This kind of standard a lot of people do that in their README

- It should have a code snippet

Last but not least, the website is focusing on explaining that Guile is 
an
**extension** language. I don't use it as such and neither do many 
other,
"it a general programming language with appealing embedding features".

Most people looking for language look for a language to program their 
car/house,
website, make REST apis, build games, script their system and some to 
extend their
software to provide multiple extension language  with the same API. This 
is a really
massive feature of Guile and a deserve a full block, but other aspects 
of the Guile must
appear in the page. I think it is bad rep to call it "script" language.

I think it's written nowhere that it's a scheme language following srfi 
and RNRS specifications.
Honestly it was an another argument for me to start using Guile, instead 
of Racket.

> 
> I understand. But I hope that the "Applications using guile" section
> will erase any wrong impressions that some people may get after seeing
> the illustrations.
> 

This design IMO target better young people, I am not sure that's the 
image
Guile wants to show at first glance.


Hope this helps,


Amirouche


> 
> P. S.: Nala Ginrut, I put your two cents in my pocket, thanks :)
> 
> 
>> 
>> Luis Felipe López Acevedo writes:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> As part of the Guile project I imagine, I'd like to propose these 
>>> visual
>>> modifications for the logo and the website.
>>> 
>>> Logo
>>> https://multimedialib.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/guile-logo-proposal-2015-06-16.png
>>> 
>>> Website mockup (some rough sketches here)
>>> https://multimedialib.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/website-mockup-2015-09-15.png
>>> 
>>> My intention with this proposal is, hopefully, to modernize the image 
>>> of
>>> the project a bit and make it more attractive to potential users.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Your comments are very welcomed,

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