From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.linux.debian.ports.hppa Subject: Re: Removal of hppa support Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:34:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <38f5a373-58b0-6f13-003f-bed60c4de731@physik.fu-berlin.de> <06111da7-68bb-514a-9556-cf21c83ea30e@physik.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="16080"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 Cc: guile-devel , "debian-hppa@lists.debian.org" To: William ML Leslie Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 26 14:34:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ivi3X-00047L-5O for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:34:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ivi3W-0007u5-AU for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:34:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ivi3L-0007tm-TL for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:34:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivi3K-0005QF-Ic for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:33659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ivi3K-0005O0-Bg for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 08:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (envelope-from ) id <1ivi3H-001wZI-UD>; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:34:11 +0100 Original-Received: from p57ae5a20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.174.90.32] helo=[192.168.178.23]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.85) with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (envelope-from ) id <1ivi3H-000fQJ-N8>; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:34:11 +0100 Autocrypt: addr=glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de; keydata= mQINBE3JE9wBEADMrYGNfz3oz6XLw9XcWvuIxIlPWoTyw9BxTicfGAv0d87wngs9U+d52t/R EggPePf34gb7/k8FBY1IgyxnZEB5NxUb1WtW0M3GUxpPx6gBZqOm7SK1ZW3oSORw+T7Aezl3 Zq4Nr4Nptqx7fnLpXfRDs5iYO/GX8WuL8fkGS/gIXtxKewd0LkTlb6jq9KKq8qn8/BN5YEKq JlM7jsENyA5PIe2npN3MjEg6p+qFrmrzJRuFjjdf5vvGfzskrXCAKGlNjMMA4TgZvugOFmBI /iSyV0IOaj0uKhes0ZNX+lQFrOB4j6I5fTBy7L/T3W/pCWo3wVkknNYa8TDYT73oIZ7Aimv+ k7OzRfnxsSOAZT8Re1Yt8mvzr6FHVFjr/VdyTtO5JgQZ6LEmvo4Ro+2ByBmCHORCQ0NJhD1U 3avjGfvfslG999W0WEZLTeaGkBAN1yG/1bgGAytQQkD9NsVXqBy7S3LVv9bB844ysW5Aj1nv tgIz14E2WL8rbpfjJMXi7B5ha6Lxf3rFOgxpr6ZoEn+bGG4hmrO+/ReA4SerfMqwSTnjZsZv xMJsx2B9c8DaZE8GsA4I6lsihbJmXhw8i7Cta8Dx418wtEbXhL6m/UEk60O7QD1VBgGqDMnJ DFSlvKa9D+tZde/kHSNmQmLLzxtDbNgBgmR0jUlmxirijnm8bwARAQABtFRKb2huIFBhdWwg QWRyaWFuIEdsYXViaXR6IChGcmVpZSBVbml2ZXJzaXRhZXQgQmVybGluKSA8Z2xhdWJpdHpA cGh5c2lrLmZ1LWJlcmxpbi5kZT6JAl In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Originating-IP: 87.174.90.32 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 130.133.4.66 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20342 gmane.linux.debian.ports.hppa:7957 Archived-At: On 1/26/20 1:21 PM, William ML Leslie wrote: > The only thing Wingo wrote publicly about this seems to be: > >> I ported some of the existing GNU Lightning backends over to Lightening... I deleted the backends for Itanium, HPPA, Alpha, and SPARC; they have no Debian ports and there is no situation in which I can afford to do QA on them. [0] > > I haven't pushed to see what conditions would need to change to make > JIT support on these architectures desirable for the core developers. > Thoughts, Andy? Ludo? They have no Debian ports? > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-07-16/ > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=guile-2.2&suite=sid It would have been nice if anyone from upstream had reached out to us. The lack of communication is rather disappointing. >> Debian (and NetBSD) still support hppa perfectly fine so the code is actually >> being compiled, used and test-run. And guile has been building fine on Debian/hppa. >> >> Access to hppa machines for testing and bug fixing is also available through Debian. >> >>> As an ia64 user, i'm a bit sad that we lost jit too - but i don't run any >>> performance-sensitive guile jobs on that system. >> >> Are you using Debian's ia64 port? We recently resurrected it ;). >> > > Yes I am - I saw that. Thank you for all your hard work on it! You're welcome. We're always looking for more contributors. > I was recently trying to figure out the issue with the vim-tiny tests > and I broke my ssh access: I failed to realise why setting up a chroot > was so important when you only have access to Sid. It is quite a bit > of work to get iLO access in my office so I've been putting it off > until I have a couple of days clear to look into it, and I've been > working on replacing the ancient tech needed to speak to early iLO > cards (a java6 browser plugin and old SSL with no hostname > verification). Yeah. The vim testsuite issue affects multiple architectures. > It's not my first debian-ports fun either - I ran a hurd-i386 box for > over a decade without issue. Nice. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913