From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maxime Devos Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel Subject: Re: Java finalization & smobs? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 18:02:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.3-1 Cc: lilypond-devel To: Han-Wen Nienhuys , Guile Devel Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 19:03:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkFE-0002HA-Cy for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 19:03:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38930 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkFC-00049G-Ho for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkE4-0003KW-Ad for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:02:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a02:1800:110:4::f00:19] (port=55442 helo=laurent.telenet-ops.be) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvkE2-0006QX-1t for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:02:32 -0500 Original-Received: from ptr-bvsjgyhxw7psv60dyze.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be ([IPv6:2a02:1811:8c09:9d00:3c5f:2eff:feb0:ba5a]) by laurent.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id Ui2R2600Z4UW6Th01i2SHM; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 19:02:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telenet.be; s=r21; t=1639159346; bh=bUc16nluZDQTJgWi6f+p77AjOapTsoK1apke1Kw+e1Q=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=r9uT9KIz7AXImBURJDZARdG0VxKnL0iVrqr2v9Jxmc20IdcKxeJVpumHWNKXFuHQa GICRlD0W9RafDLwYQt9hgLL3olQwk+0MnJX+NX2aWVEIPs9+7/f+0EXQ5col0U8Xt7 0Ps72fvPIZ4p72QVHPDc2WvJm57A/8fyb3ObPDDNQOKHfdAJp1vGL5AN/n8Ob3ukQW C0FCg6TE2hIdkjCdFi+xanpyU7z2GDVxZpeExIQkjzR0cJp4aG8FP+KgAmSBIoxXws FmEqD7ZaluwyaZKVjznYvhauPIUIxUCmtAwXUr7gL32lXC7T6QHPRpzF71jLo6/GRZ 8djakEzfQCV2Q== X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a02:1800:110:4::f00:19 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:1800:110:4::f00:19; envelope-from=maximedevos@telenet.be; helo=laurent.telenet-ops.be X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20995 gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel:78858 Archived-At: Han-Wen Nienhuys schreef op vr 10-12-2021 om 15:59 [+0100]: > We can change our mark routines to avoid the crash, but it's unclear > to us if this behavior is intended or not, and we worry that this > will > come back to bite us in the future. > [...] > [... things about Java-style finalisation ...] Keep in mind that Jonas Hahnfeld (from LilyPond) was looking into _not_ enabling Java-style finalisation (until guardians are used), see . Greetings, Maxime