From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: GPT-4 knows Guile! :) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:14:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9iK1V+g5keGGjeG0" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="619"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Mikael Djurfeldt Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 18 09:14:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRhz-000AYa-78 for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:14:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRhX-0003ND-7c; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRhV-0003Mu-6A for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRhT-0001FX-Fg for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:14:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject :Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AFFTUOXSvskkwSWaW7JIirUCG/BJ7iGOMhZkLYGmII0=; b=Q8rm/iQ6/E95KVYvX1Ukqmnzg0 Mz8P+E6aiV9Vq+AZcm86hutmxpvvorRDoiVc+VYNLCLBB6wm/1zNzR7/WBfjTnh1PXStuYTEt6UBV /VZzOFlR9dD3W2amto+hokj7yA0+uMAMRNqLSxtyJ+G39kVS9YX2LCgNBxc72sJ9C6bsboW1TIg3r Buo+gURj+kMI3cdM3KLlI9hdm2n1ljKh7IoKvKHdIBvpRj6Ni5hK4Ucj7AUuiHAzs0pR8OPJcPQ9r E08HnHwXSjawBG5A9HaNml/wSvRVU6fHO6oj2lu0iLUUBBd+94Rs6hKX8qDpHcDDq+LpiJaUMtYCu RJUiOx0w==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRhR-0005bf-1Q; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:14:01 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21785 Archived-At: --9iK1V+g5keGGjeG0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 08:55:03AM +0100, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote: > > 1. Install Guile: >=20 > > > > > > csharp > > ^^^^^^ > > > > > > sudo apt-get install guile-2.2 > > > > [...] > > > > Did it literally write "csharp"? With some fantasy, I guess it > > is trying to evoke a root shell, but with some malice, I'd say > > Microsoft is sleazily touting some product of theirs. > > >=20 > No, in the browser the bash lines were presented in windows which had the > text "bash" in the title bar, but GPT-4 is a bit sloppy in that text can > "leak in" from other documents, so the first two windows had the title > csharp instead of bash. Actually, I think those were associating the convention of suggesting a root shell prompt by a '#', aka a "sharp sign". Given the flooding of ghithub with csharp, the thing probably dreamt up the "c" before the "sharp". Note that those are exactly the two lines you would execute as root (not that I would ever execute a command suggested by ChatGPT as root,mind you). This is what I was hinting at with that pastiche of Hanlon's Razor and Clarke's Third Law. If you're doing statistical "AI", no harm is provably intended. But the dice might be loaded ;-) > When I then just marked a region in the browser and > copied, the text from the title windows got copied too (and *I*, being a > bit sloppy, didn't notice it :). Those small details are the interesting parts. :-) Cheers --=20 t --9iK1V+g5keGGjeG0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCZBVywgAKCRAFyCz1etHa Rl4lAJsHb633wI9Ejn+U/oC9x5uLZTCP7wCfbq5KYBmVhyTuiGNXDL71Fj1EZ28= =Dwd8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9iK1V+g5keGGjeG0--