From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Guile VM interpreter in GraalVM Truffle framework Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 06:48:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <85eebe72-74f8-25e7-dd1b-ddc2c031638e@gmail.com> <25b428a7-94af-b8be-e82f-6bc74bbc0b5c@telenet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HWbL88nX+s0QWnZR" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23834"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 24 06:48:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p8xOf-00063W-GW for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 06:48:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8xOT-0001zu-Se; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 00:48:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8xOS-0001zj-Gs for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 00:48:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p8xOQ-0002Fp-1j for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 00:48:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=wmNdXMXSbMRZu6/8aH6kUhto/T3mLi5JSKbosrp2h7Y=; b=oSqCWNZ+xpi8e/BPor5lBUBLuV J8D5cKG2HmbjL+YzK9Y5L2hlnsHXzdLCGGUIDPFxk+QIeH8RU7hTk3Gw3sGu9kp942Ojl77eXCDXR ag1mmhf/MvgoM6sS1dvQ2qYewamqQ5eYgmUQlKfrDNvUAe/uFhOop1k8J1V7xvMxJlWvnywv9dJ+o lyo7+LPV0N5znQp6CfYTmJeKwJdYa4JgIaoVOeMCuC/CBWUx3fNapqKnmlLBHl5KDhIpK4bDJo+Gh XLHfWr7hsftuoRNWxu1Yg1Vjy4t9VxQO8OrYVjMAXOxMqFKL3y/shbyAo2qNQiYqOyWVDJz3T6ZgT FtwWPM0A==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1p8xON-0004Xm-8Y for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 06:48:19 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25b428a7-94af-b8be-e82f-6bc74bbc0b5c@telenet.be> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21523 Archived-At: --HWbL88nX+s0QWnZR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 09:51:11PM +0100, Maxime Devos wrote: > On 23-12-2022 18:06, Arvydas Silanskas wrote: > > Good day, > >=20 > > I have aspirations to run scheme on graalvm's truffle framework. And on > > superficial research, it seems implementing a Guile VM bytecode > > interpreter could be easiest path. I just want to inquire, if someone > > already had similar ideas and in secrecy is working or planning to on > > this? If you're familiar with truffle (I'm not), any insights on "guile > > on graal" would also be welcome. > >=20 > > Best regards > >=20 > > Arvydas >=20 > Scheme has a notion of ephemerons and weak hash tables. Perhaps relevant in this context: https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/11/28/are-ephemerons-primitive (disclaimer: my vision tends to blur on those things :-) Cheers --=20 t --HWbL88nX+s0QWnZR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY6aSnQAKCRAFyCz1etHa RllOAKCAFDi1Iev1PzF34QZ8cThU2Qtu5wCePnIJSFwqyS/QspZj6Wb2zh3D6ug= =PKQE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HWbL88nX+s0QWnZR--