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From: Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
Cc: Guile Development <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug in syncase
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:53:54 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10211231145000.25838-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3y97m8yga.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>

On 21 Nov 2002, Neil Jerram wrote:

> >>>>> "Dirk" == Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> writes:
> 
>     Dirk> In the current implementation, the decision, how the @fop
>     Dirk> expression should be changed, would be taken when foo was
>     Dirk> set to 2.  In contrast, with my memoization phase I would
>     Dirk> like to perform the transformation (including the expansion
>     Dirk> of the transformer-macro expression) at the point where bar
>     Dirk> gets defined.
> 
>     Dirk> In other words: Are there any statements about _when_ the
>     Dirk> expansion of the @fop macro and the transformer-macro should
>     Dirk> happen?
> 
> I would say that there are no statements except that transformed Elisp
> code should behave in the same way as Emacs.
> 
> In Emacs:
[example deleted]
> 
> In Guile (current unstable CVS):
[example deleted]
> 
> So Guile as it stands is already wrong in the last result.  It looks
> as though Emacs behaves as though there is no memoization at all.

There is a mechanism in scheme that allows to prevent memoization:  eval.
If it is correct that emacs does not perform memoization, then it might be
that the whole concept of the @fop memoization is wrong.  Could you check
whether it is possible to achieve emacs' behaviour by replacing the @fop
solution by a solution based on eval (or some elisp equivalent of this)?
I would postpone working on @fop until this is solved - there are still
enough other things to do for me :-)

Best regards
Dirk



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  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-23 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10211161811180.9959-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-11-17 12:11 ` bug in syncase Neil Jerram
2002-11-20 17:33   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-21 17:53   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-21 20:22     ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-23 10:53       ` Dirk Herrmann [this message]
2002-11-24  9:25         ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 10:33           ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-12-04  1:12           ` Rob Browning
2002-11-23 13:01       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-12-04 18:27       ` Carl R. Witty
2002-12-04 20:54         ` Neil Jerram
2002-12-09 20:28           ` Carl R. Witty
2002-11-14 11:59 Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-15  4:10 ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-11-15  9:29   ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-11-15  9:34 ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-11-15 19:25 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-16 18:39 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-11-17 10:54   ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-17 20:07     ` Marius Vollmer

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