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From: Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
Cc: Guile Development <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug in syncase
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:53:51 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10211211838180.21226-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fzu05rc0.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>

Hello Neil,

> ;;; NIL-COND expressions have the form:
> ;;;
> ;;; (nil-cond COND VAL COND VAL ... ELSEVAL)

OK, done with that one.

> @fop is used to translate an Elisp application, and is complicated in
> two ways:
> 
> - When the application is translated, we don't know whether the CAR of
>   the application represents a function or a macro, and therefore
>   whether the application arguments need to be translated.
> 
> - The symbol in the CAR may need to be looked up recursively, for
>   defalias support.
> 
> The Scheme translation code translates (fn arg ...) to (@fop fn
> (transformer-macro arg ...)). Then, when (@fop ...) is memoized and
> evaluated,
> 
> - scm_m_atfop changes it to (#@apply fnval (transformer-macro arg
>   ...))  if fnval is a function, or (fnval arg ...) if fnval is a
>   macro, where fnval is the function or macro obtained from looking up
>   fn's symbol function slot (recursively if needed)
> 
> - remaining evaluation of (#@apply fnval (transformer-macro arg ...))
>   or (fnval arg ...) is done by the evaluator.

I have some questions about that one:  As you say, scm_m_atfop changes the
code in one of two ways, depending on the state of fnval at some point in
time.  Currently, this time is when the code is _executed_.  See the
following example:
  (define foo 1)
  (define (fn) <some code>)
  (define (bar) (if (= foo 2) (@fop fn (transformer-macro arg ...)))))
  (bar)
  (define foo 2)
  (defmacro fn args <some macro transformer>)
  (bar)
In the current implementation, the decision, how the @fop expression
should be changed, would be taken when foo was set to 2.  In contrast,
with my memoization phase I would like to perform the transformation
(including the expansion of the transformer-macro expression) at the point
where bar gets defined.

In other words:  Are there any statements about _when_ the expansion of
the @fop macro and the transformer-macro should happen?

Best regards,
Dirk Herrmann



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-21 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10211161811180.9959-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-11-17 12:11 ` bug in syncase Neil Jerram
2002-11-20 17:33   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-21 17:53   ` Dirk Herrmann [this message]
2002-11-21 20:22     ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-23 10:53       ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-24  9:25         ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 10:33           ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-12-04  1:12           ` Rob Browning
2002-11-23 13:01       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-12-04 18:27       ` Carl R. Witty
2002-12-04 20:54         ` Neil Jerram
2002-12-09 20:28           ` Carl R. Witty
2002-11-14 11:59 Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-15  4:10 ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-11-15  9:29   ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-11-15  9:34 ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-11-15 19:25 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-16 18:39 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-11-17 10:54   ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-17 20:07     ` Marius Vollmer

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