From: Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: macros, procedure->macro
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:46:22 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207100727490.15376-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fzysa9fe.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
On 9 Jul 2002, Neil Jerram wrote:
> Dirk> If all results are positive, I will go ahead and remove the support
> Dirk> for "macros" from guile. After that, I will take a close look at "acros"
> Dirk> and we will play a similar game with "acros" again...
>
> Before doing this, I think we need to state clearly when macro
> expansion will happen in the future Guile.
[...]
> (As far as I understand, the options are just after reading and just
> before memoization, but just-after-reading makes recursive macro
> definitions difficult, and just-before-memoization leads to rather
> lame execution-dependent expansion.
Hmmm, I don't quite understand you here - to me it seems that the big
difference is whether macro-expansion happens during execution, or before
execution. If macro-expansion happens before execution, you could
basically have one big step "macro expansion + memoization/compilation"
which should cover both the just-after-reading and the
just-before-memoization options. Sure, this big step is better separated
into different tasks, but that can be decided later. Currently my focus
is on separating the big step from execution.
> Obviously, by definition, the exact timing only matters for
> non-hygienic macros; but my assumption is that an awful lot of people
> want non-hygienic macros.)
Could you give some examples for situations where the exact timing is
important?
Best regards,
Dirk Herrmann
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-01 19:56 macros, procedure->macro Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 21:30 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-03 20:24 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 22:14 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-03 20:11 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-07 17:54 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-08 20:31 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-09 18:22 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 5:21 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 19:31 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 19:57 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 20:08 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-01 22:17 ` Gary Houston
2002-07-09 21:16 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-10 5:46 ` Dirk Herrmann [this message]
2002-07-10 10:15 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-10 20:03 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13 0:09 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-13 2:36 ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-07-14 15:23 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-14 16:26 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15 6:03 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-13 6:53 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-14 15:23 ` Neil Jerram
[not found] <200207012220.PAA08054@onyx.he.net>
2002-07-03 20:08 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-04 20:16 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-07 18:15 ` Marius Vollmer
[not found] <87n0t376c9.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-08 20:23 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-09 18:13 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 21:54 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13 9:53 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13 18:38 ` Marius Vollmer
[not found] <m3lm8e5o69.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-14 21:35 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-15 20:48 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15 22:42 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-16 22:00 ` Dirk Herrmann
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