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From: Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: macros, procedure->macro
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:46:22 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10207100727490.15376-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fzysa9fe.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>

On 9 Jul 2002, Neil Jerram wrote:

>     Dirk> If all results are positive, I will go ahead and remove the support
>     Dirk> for "macros" from guile.  After that, I will take a close look at "acros"
>     Dirk> and we will play a similar game with "acros" again...
> 
> Before doing this, I think we need to state clearly when macro
> expansion will happen in the future Guile.
[...]
> (As far as I understand, the options are just after reading and just
> before memoization, but just-after-reading makes recursive macro
> definitions difficult, and just-before-memoization leads to rather
> lame execution-dependent expansion.

Hmmm, I don't quite understand you here - to me it seems that the big
difference is whether macro-expansion happens during execution, or before
execution.  If macro-expansion happens before execution, you could
basically have one big step "macro expansion + memoization/compilation"
which should cover both the just-after-reading and the
just-before-memoization options.  Sure, this big step is better separated
into different tasks, but that can be decided later.  Currently my focus
is on separating the big step from execution.

> Obviously, by definition, the exact timing only matters for
> non-hygienic macros; but my assumption is that an awful lot of people
> want non-hygienic macros.)

Could you give some examples for situations where the exact timing is
important?

Best regards,
Dirk Herrmann


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-10  5:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-01 19:56 macros, procedure->macro Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 21:30 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-03 20:24   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 22:14 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-03 20:11   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-07 17:54     ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-08 20:31       ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-09 18:22         ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10  5:21           ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 19:31             ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 19:57               ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 20:08                 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-01 22:17 ` Gary Houston
2002-07-09 21:16 ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-10  5:46   ` Dirk Herrmann [this message]
2002-07-10 10:15     ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-10 20:03       ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13  0:09         ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-13  2:36           ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-07-14 15:23             ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-14 16:26               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15  6:03                 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-13  6:53           ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-14 15:23             ` Neil Jerram
     [not found] <200207012220.PAA08054@onyx.he.net>
2002-07-03 20:08 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-04 20:16   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-07 18:15     ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <87n0t376c9.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-08 20:23 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-09 18:13   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 21:54 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13  9:53   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13 18:38     ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <m3lm8e5o69.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-14 21:35 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-15 20:48   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15 22:42   ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-16 22:00     ` Dirk Herrmann

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