From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Scot Keenan" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.spam.detected Subject: 62? Your account is in Arrears Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 08:53:03 -0100 Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: Scot Keenan NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1113876860==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084611674 20882 80.91.224.253 (15 May 2004 09:01:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 15 11:01:03 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOv2U-0003sV-00 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 11:01:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BOv1K-0000Vz-3d for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 04:59:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BOuzb-0008N4-Kt for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 04:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BOuwD-0006ur-UX for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 04:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [68.79.64.209] (helo=adsl-68-79-64-209.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BOuvh-0006Cg-A6 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 04:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from 48.51.171.80 by 218.112.72.70; Sat, 15 May 2004 02:47:03 -0700 Original-To: guile-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Mime-version: 1.0 Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Spam-Report: 23.0 points; * 1.0 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name * 0.1 BIZ_TLD URI: Contains a URL in the BIZ top-level domain * 0.0 HTML_30_40 BODY: Message is 30% to 40% HTML * 0.1 HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE BODY: HTML font color not in safe 6x6x6 palette * 3.0 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different * 0.0 BAYES_56 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 56 to 60% * [score: 0.5790] * 0.0 HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST BODY: HTML font color similar to background * 0.0 HTML_FONTCOLOR_YELLOW BODY: HTML font color is yellow * 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 0.6 MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET RAW: Message text in HTML without charset * 5.0 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net * [Blocked - see ] * 4.0 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL * [68.79.64.209 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org] * 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is a abuseable web server * [68.79.64.209 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * 4.0 URIBL_SBL Contains a URL listed in the SBL blocklist * [URIs: holdit.biz] * 4.0 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains a URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist * [URIs: notinuse.biz holdit.biz] * 1.0 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_SPAM Bulk email fingerprint (double IP) found Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:3715 gmane.spam.detected:243844 X-Report-Unspam: http://unspam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:3715 --===============1113876860== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--CDECB420FAC79AA0D8" ----CDECB420FAC79AA0D8 Content-Type: text/html; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable something that is normally not the case in the relation between hum= ans and robots. I will claim that in cyberculture AIBO as an entertainment= robot is accepted into collectives on symmetrical terms

 

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