From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Ian Grant <ian.a.n.grant@googlemail.com>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, lightning@gnu.org, deraadt@theos.com,
Markus.Kuhn@cl.cam.ac.uk, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Reinterpreting the compiler source code
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 18:16:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1XQOHj-0006L5-Oz@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKFjmdwHAmBu4Vm7hEgtn7MkifEAosjmTgFWO-UEoOw1O79o9w@mail.gmail.com> (message from Ian Grant on Thu, 4 Sep 2014 22:23:41 -0400)
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I can speak in favor of any serious effort to try to verify that
our binaries match our souce code.
> What we need is a language with a simple semantics for which we can write
> interpreters from scratch. It will be slow, but that doesn't matter. All we
> need it for is to generate the reference compiler that we know is secure,
> and the reference tools that we use to verify that the object code produced
> by the full 740 MB of GCC source when compiled by the 74MB gcc binaries, is
> the same object code our reference compiler produces.
I did not understand, until now, that this was meant as a way to verify GCC.
I thought you meant we should stop using our existing tools and program
in this language instead. I was not interested in that.
However, as a scheme to verify our tools and keep using them,
it might make sense. I can't judge how effective this sort of proof
might be, but I won't reject the idea.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-04 17:33 Reinterpreting the compiler source code Ian Grant
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2014-09-04 20:57 ` Bruno Loff
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2014-09-05 0:44 ` Ian Grant
2014-09-05 0:13 ` William ML Leslie
2014-09-05 1:51 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1XPigS-000528-41-iW7gFb+/I3LZHJUXO5efmti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 2:23 ` Ian Grant
2014-09-06 22:16 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
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