From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.comp.gnu.lightning.general Subject: Re: Reinterpreting the compiler source code Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:51:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409881908 22132 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2014 01:51:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 01:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, deraadt@theos.com, Markus.Kuhn@cl.cam.ac.uk, torvalds@osdl.org, lightning@gnu.org, schellr@ieee.org To: Ian Grant Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 05 03:51:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XPigf-0002xT-JA for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 03:51:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPigf-0005Vs-8R for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:51:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50159) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPigZ-0005Vb-Qm for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:51:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPigY-0004ay-E4 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:51:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPigY-0004at-BA; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:51:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPigS-000528-41; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:51:28 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Ian Grant on Thu, 4 Sep 2014 13:33:38 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:17409 gmane.comp.gnu.lightning.general:570 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I don't know prolog, and even if I did, reading so much code would take a lot of time. I don't see a point, because all that example can prove is that some subtle of sabotage is _possible_. I'd rather just agree that it is possible. (I already did.) I think our community's distributed build practices would make it difficult for such a sabotage to hit the whole community. Many GCC developers and redistributors have been bootstrapping for decades using their old versions. However, this suggests to me a way of investigating whether such sabotage is present in our tools. It would be much less work than replacing the system with new "simple" software, but it would be a substantial job. I think it would need funding. I don't know how to get such funding, but maybe someone else does. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.