From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.comp.gnu.lightning.general,gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: GNU Thunder Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409881847 21615 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2014 01:50:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 01:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lightning-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org, guile-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: Ian Grant Original-X-From: lightning-bounces+gcglg-lightning=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Fri Sep 05 03:50:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcglg-lightning@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XPifi-0002GP-LR for gcglg-lightning@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 03:50:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54999 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPifi-0005Gi-9h for gcglg-lightning@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49869) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPifd-0005Dq-P6 for lightning-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:50:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPifc-0004OQ-KE for lightning-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:50:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPifa-0004Np-2L; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:50:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPifZ-0004g6-KA; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 21:50:33 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Ian Grant on Wed, 3 Sep 2014 21:53:28 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: lightning-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: lightning-bounces+gcglg-lightning=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: lightning-bounces+gcglg-lightning=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.gnu.lightning.general:569 gmane.lisp.guile.devel:17408 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Which hack was that? The one Thompson is reported to have actually implemented in Unix? You are assuming what you are trying to prove: you are assuming there has only ever been one instance of this class of attack, and you are trying to prove that this class of attack is unlikely. We can imagine all sorts of possible ways we might have been sabotaged. It is an imponderable. There are limits to how much effort we should make to deal with the imponderable possibilities of sabotage. Especially since there is so much else we know that we need to do. To throw away all our software because of these possibilities would not make sense. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.