From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nala Ginrut Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: moving to gitlab? 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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:19806 Archived-At: --000000000000b4e8dd058016a21b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, I hope Guile can use gitlab. However, IIRC, RMS has some comments on this, the hosting service must be free, and it shouldn't allow to fork, but branch-based. This is reasonable to protect project, but RMS speaks as a skilled hacker, I have to say it's very good policy in a professional engineers team to be branch-based. But nowadays, people hope FOSS project be easier to contribute, fork is easier for them. I accept patches on Gitlab for GNU Artanis. BTW, that's the main reason I write GNU Artanis, since I'd like to provide a new Savannah to provide modern services and abey FSF ethic. Although it's in a very slow stepping toward to final target... Greg Troxel =E4=BA=8E 2019=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5= =E5=91=A8=E4=B8=89 09:32=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > Aleix Conchillo Flaqu=C3=A9 writes: > > > Any chance or interest in moving to gitlab? My apologies if this has > > been discussed already. Not that I ever contribute anything directly > > to Guile (2 patches in 6 years?), but it feels like it would be an > > improvement in terms of communication, sending patches, etc. May be it > > would even encourage more developers to contribute? Sending patches > > over a mailing list shouldn't be a thing anymore. Again, my apologies. > > I can't speak for the coalition, but generally there is a notion that > FSF projects are hosted on infrastructure operated by a charitable > non-profit that has the advancement of Free Software as the goal. > > Also, history shows that the place people move to because of concerns > about $PREVIOSU_PLACE will follow suit eventually... > > If your point is that the self-hosted infrastructure should have some > way for random poeple to provide in-tool changes, that sounds sensible. > > --000000000000b4e8dd058016a21b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First, I hope Guile can use gitlab.
Howe= ver, IIRC, RMS has some comments on this, the hosting service must be free,= and it shouldn't allow to fork, but branch-based. This is reasonable t= o protect project, but RMS speaks as a skilled hacker, I have to say it'= ;s very good policy in a professional engineers team to be branch-based.
But nowadays, people hope FOSS project be easier to co= ntribute, fork is easier for them.
I accept patches = on Gitlab for GNU Artanis.

BTW, that's the main reason I write GNU Artanis, since I'd like = to provide a new Savannah to provide modern services and abey FSF ethic. Al= though it's in a very slow stepping toward to final target...

Greg Troxel <gdt@lexort.com> =E4=BA=8E 2019=E5=B9=B41= =E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=B8=89 09:32=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
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Aleix Conchillo Flaqu=C3=A9 <acon= chillo@gmail.com> writes:

> Any chance or interest in moving to gitlab? My apologies if this has > been discussed already. Not that I ever contribute anything directly > to Guile (2 patches in 6 years?), but it feels like it would be an
> improvement in terms of communication, sending patches, etc. May be it=
> would even encourage more developers to contribute? Sending patches > over a mailing list shouldn't be a thing anymore. Again, my apolog= ies.

I can't speak for the coalition, but generally there is a notion that FSF projects are hosted on infrastructure operated by a charitable
non-profit that has the advancement of Free Software as the goal.

Also, history shows that the place people move to because of concerns
about $PREVIOSU_PLACE will follow suit eventually...

If your point is that the self-hosted infrastructure should have some
way for random poeple to provide in-tool changes, that sounds sensible.

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