From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Doug Evans Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add ',run' and ',!' Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:03:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87fvyx4sqn.fsf@karetnikov.org> <87a9p5eigt.fsf@Kagami.home> <87a9cgu2lt.fsf@pobox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395605014 25722 80.91.229.3 (23 Mar 2014 20:03:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ian Price , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Andy Wingo Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 23 21:03:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRocQ-00032x-A1 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 21:03:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33260 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRocP-0007Hv-8c for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRocJ-0007He-7H for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRocH-0000g3-Tc for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:03:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yh0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22e]:54304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRocH-0000fq-PA for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:03:33 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yh0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b6so4399018yha.33 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+gIch/mbCeIJ+W+FUnPhFlL4BowPrD5EoDVQnlG+bJE=; b=FRAiG+VSdDswwv9C0aKKOkz9tdjO+Ng4bQDBb9kjHdMAG2JIuoJxL3f8h8k9GGnVB6 /HMMTJdXLqv2jcXBv/dJW92Un0UR0Kpt7CgEv99XMS1LjuRGroCWkpuiVWB36QXQIdBB 89S9xkBytOhhUR2H41g6ofuYIb8VGzdhdzIEX0KGoidLkXTVMGu3cZx5WV+EQT6OjscZ j580SBbuzu/x8rFcbizuOwU4v+WCKuoaQSrNLDC7Vj6sY2AVKI6mSMMeWl+XtN890tfS xLR/RBWPGh3f2XhvI7vKd7xpUZxJ/pmDBu8lIPOR/T2ghyhhhptAX4YXOi9bPvNy78mU Bs5A== X-Received: by 10.236.223.73 with SMTP id u69mr83783785yhp.40.1395605013076; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.214.130 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a9cgu2lt.fsf@pobox.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22e X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:16994 Archived-At: On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Andy Wingo wrote: > Hi, > > Following up after a loooong time -- > > On Fri 12 Apr 2013 01:55, Daniel Hartwig writes: > >> On 11 April 2013 13:37, Ian Price wrote: >>> >>>> So, what do you think [about ,run and ,!]? >>> >>> This is the sort of thing that belongs in a .guile rather than in >>> guile IMO. >>> >> >> Right, and since you can already do this with more control via the >> posix interface, adding this 'shortcut' to the repl adds little in the >> way of value. > > I'm not sure I agree. Anything a REPL command can do can also be done > programmatically, so that's not really an argument against REPL > commands. OTOH people find that the ability to shell out is useful -- > almost all language shells have such a thing. I think such a feature > could have a place in Guile proper. fwiw, I use ! in gdb all the time. I would find ,! in guile's repl very useful myself.