From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Hartwig Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: About Guile crypto support Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:12:28 +0800 Message-ID: References: <1359896146.2754.19.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> <871ucvof60.fsf@gnu.org> <1360032192.2754.61.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> <87mwvisqwj.fsf@gnu.org> <878v6yojxg.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj55bjxz.fsf@gnu.org> <1360576299.5068.20.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360635049 22801 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2013 02:10:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:10:49 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 12 03:11:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U55Kv-0006Pg-FA for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:11:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56624 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U55Kc-0004xs-2n for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:10:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U55KX-0004xi-Ql for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:10:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U55KW-0007sI-Pi for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ia0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c02::234]:44821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U55KW-0007rT-EW for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:10:44 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ia0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f27so6935217iae.39 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:10:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m3ApCnertStyqQ/NzVwQxVdECZ1CLWdLMgP3LljnypY=; b=bcRxbaOUhVTzFGtrM0p9Zu+Bsg4bL+nrscI5UEX62xx3DEnCoLMbCqdE4GjsHOtUZG 2DH2nenRDEKau+9E9VHWdxwS1xb7nDllQbYQsIwkLJaHQFbpV5dpoR4pL9WqWTuD068m wYSaIUwJS70I0VwkuZhIBh3vvYXkvwkH9ASmNFp8IRs6StJKsdmC92/sV51A7lLiTEKp JVud/rWL81AhgM34OTj4JQmkPr+MV7Oa6V/UB7ggS2wd1/JwflqvuN/2oxUdW46Fx1aM rnbb+81TJu69ebeOQbbCzDsEebVOY02yNvGQP1rLGkpzJ6R4Mua6PssQYANHNCUqLtEA /ZQg== X-Received: by 10.43.65.145 with SMTP id xm17mr20492833icb.35.1360631548780; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:12:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.64.76.51 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:12:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c02::234 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:15730 Archived-At: On 11 February 2013 23:23, Greg Troxel wrote: > (First, "all mainstream distros" is only talking about Linux.) > > This .so=3D>devel does not make sense to me. I thought the point was > that -devel split things that people who wanted to compile against the > package needed, but not things needed to run. So if a .so is used by a > program that has been compiled, then it needs to be in the non-devel > package. I would expect that .so generally belongs in the non-devel > package, and that the -devel package would have .a and .h. > > FWIW, BSD packaging systems do not have this -devel notion [Assuming a Debian-centric view.] To be clear, the =E2=80=9C.so=E2=80=9D files shipped in -dev packages are j= ust symlinks. The real =E2=80=9C.so.X.Y=E2=80=9D are shipped in the correspond= ing library package, as makes sense. Nala Ginrut wrote earlier: > This could be a real issue since almost all mainstream distros packaging > policy force *.so be put in -devel packages. Though openSUSE/debian adds > the exception for Guile, I believe it's so hard to do that for every > packages uses Guile. What do you mean, =E2=80=9Cadds the exception for Guile=E2=80=9D? The guil= e-2.0-dev package contains the same /symlink/ as other -dev packages do. The real .so is in guile-2.0-libs. I do not see how that is different to any other library/dev package pair.