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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::932 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20292 Archived-At: Le sam. 18 janv. 2020 =C3=A0 15:14, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s a = =C3=A9crit : > > Hello Guilers! > > The Guile logo has this =E2=80=9CGNU extension language=E2=80=9D baseline= . As Guile 3 > came out, this baseline felt odd to me, not quite corresponding to the > way I see Guile. > > Clearly, Guile is still an extension language, with many great > applications (Gnucash, Lepton-EDA, OpenCog, GDB, etc.), and I=E2=80=99m s= ure > libguile is here to stay. Yet, to me, =E2=80=9Cextension language=E2=80= =9D does not > accurately capture what Guile today allows for and what people have been > doing with it; since 2.0, it=E2=80=99s more than an extension language, e= ven > more so with the performance afforded by Guile 3. I agree. > > Thus, I=E2=80=99d propose changing the baseline. Something that would de= scribe > what Guile is to me is: > > GNU, fast, fun, functional > I think the term functional is overloaded and somewhat misleading because Guile is NOT ONLY functional. I would rather see "multi-paradigm" and / or "batteries included". > What=E2=80=99s about you? What=E2=80=99s Guile to you? :-) Guile is a fast dynamic programming language.