From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Neil Jerram Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Stepping back up as a co-maintainer Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:21:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87wod5qmbc.fsf@netris.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000977fd30595196db4" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="131893"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Mark H Weaver , guile-user , guile-devel To: zx spectrumgomas Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 17 13:22:51 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iL3rn-000YCB-Eo for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:22:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iL3rm-0006c4-10 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:22:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iL3rC-0006GZ-Bb for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:22:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL3rA-0005Xz-R6 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:22:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qt1-x832.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::832]:38679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL3r7-0005WP-UG; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-x832.google.com with SMTP id j31so2985316qta.5; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2XXLKWnzDfVTGHjrN277Pa2W2TSZ0pnGy/Gs6C0o9hw=; b=uB1G375CXUnzBMjEn+lYt0LBy6LFgb3mu5sGDWv+U+a08bNBXpk+qVyFI+21SbH5Yz LUXUSRZQayeKaFOw1flga6L2vWgAh9Y7m/sgkErCtlA7VFnSJQzKFHfa/4Sgkb+fRI1h Wzgamn/o+Ax+nF8k/0Bw8yJX/1y7YFlpojsQLz1R6rHPFnX3spDRebuMbf+0usQTdJTD Wa1UFekkKUQPH/5LcQFEiJb78OlNCGsQVP8borF/b18X9X7LdeCr2jtJoUfu9ua8ZRay hgoJjRr7iz4TMSVKZyYVghRrw/pte3+Wy7BNuJPkUpuQvvig+Wd9FwjcRPDbzj8vmw5V 0aoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2XXLKWnzDfVTGHjrN277Pa2W2TSZ0pnGy/Gs6C0o9hw=; b=CNtuRDWXt5W2FsVd+6PEd1p8BXTU362p+2tpc5abBaoN6EQAXd+KpQKmZBA6vu4yQi 10WlNUvjhfDLad6n28beNdLcZvmdEkbgc0utDXYQtejFkJWnLO+mFdM9f/VqZwNMuH4r I9IppP0v3ov5EJNPhh+bZzjnBQ3UJX7QN3yFRbjIo8yxqGi0FC5t9fsjgL/BLqbKY8v6 QB8DH618LiAa3FvadfBXrUYNx/b3+B5JFZd7Ay2hDvmd9DIPt+F5dv0n3pTqHvX0nkQ1 t8nk1mT3wfMkLay2iul+B0jfJlRSJ5AbySTiiEakOONU9i0jQ7PCbeym8/R55v4ejQqf 7r0g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV30M1IiG56h1qCDjbx+Q11PBIqcL8hpSKfItdhLneJIVAK59KA +fm/kHXmc4mvBLlsVCiGb4bwqj/oDQdLUpz6IcU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwmHZgYYAJwtbkG1DD08ddp9MQF6oGU0rj32zgzgsFSzT/4Gc6Xep7nchZOk6S8xzqHlD3hL4Htl+fAcTjziY0= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:7289:: with SMTP id v9mr3153373qto.155.1571311328918; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:22:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::832 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20095 gmane.lisp.guile.user:15749 Archived-At: --000000000000977fd30595196db4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm afraid arguing by analogy or proverb rarely helps, because the analogy is usually inaccurate in some way. Also, what about Horchata? :-) On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 11:53, zx spectrumgomas wrote: > Let's hope so. But in Spain we have a proverb: "Blanco y en botella, > leche". "White and bottle -> milk". Let's hope it doesn't come true. > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Mikael Djurfeldt > wrote: > >> I think we should trust what Mark says and not second guess him. >> >> Helping or being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my >> list. >> >> Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas >> skrev: >> >>> I'm a simple Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver >>> are >>> saying half-thruth here >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html >>> because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam: >>> "I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of my time >>> two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin >>> for >>> a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred >>> typist >>> when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc." >>> http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.log >>> >>> I think the joint statement >>> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is >>> the >>> true key factor of his return. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver wrote: >>> >>> > Hello all, >>> > >>> > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a >>> > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > >>> >> --000000000000977fd30595196db4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm afraid arguing by analogy or proverb rarely helps,= because the analogy is usually inaccurate in some way.

= Also, what about Horchata? :-)

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 11:53, zx spectr= umgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.= com> wrote:
Let's hope so. But in Spain we have a proverb: &quo= t;Blanco y en botella,=20 leche". "White and bottle -> milk". Let's hope it doe= sn't come true.

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Mikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeldt.co= m> wrote:
I think we should trust what Mark says and not seco= nd guess him.

Helping or= being friend with someone is not among the worst crimes on my list.
Den tors 17 okt. 2019 11:28zx spectrumgomas <spectrumgomas@gmail.com> skrev= :
I'm a simp= le Guile user and I hope I'm wrong, but I think Mark H weaver are
saying half-thruth here
https://lists.gnu.org= /archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00021.html
because he has a very close friendship witch Richard Stallmam:
"I've known RMS for a long time. For a few years, I spent most of = my time
two doors down from him at the MIT AI lab. I was the FSF staff sysadmin for=
a while, and did sysadmin work on RMS's laptop. I was his preferred typ= ist
when he shattered his elbow and helped him replace his bandages, etc."=
http://logs.guix.gnu.org/guile/2014-08-09.lo= g

I think the joint statement
https://guix.gnu.org/bl= og/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ is the
true key factor of his return.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> wrote:=

> Hello all,
>
> In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a
> co-maintainer of GNU Guile.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mark
>
>
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