Re: Reinterpreting the compiler source code

From: Ian Grant <ian.a.n.grant-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	guile-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org,
	Theo deRaadt <deraadt-T7FYYhErWq4AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	 Markus Kuhn
	<Markus.Kuhn-kDbDZe0LBGWFxr2TtlUqVg@public.gmane.org>,
	lightning <lightning-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Reinterpreting the compiler source code
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 22:23:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKFjmdwHAmBu4Vm7hEgtn7MkifEAosjmTgFWO-UEoOw1O79o9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1XPigS-000528-41-iW7gFb+/I3LZHJUXO5efmti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>

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Well, I don't know Prolog either, which is why I typed in that code. I
don't know about available funding either, I have been trying for over two
years now to get people interested in this, and I ran out of financial
resources a while ago. I have been living by extorting money from my
friends and family. It's not an ideal lifestyle, but I don't know what else
I can do.

There was some money in the Linux Foundation after that Bleeding Heart
fiasco, and I thought perhaps we could go to them and say: "This is just
treating  the symptoms, not curing the disease. We would do better to cure
the disease, so why don't you give us just 10% of what you would have
spent, and see if we can't do 90% of the work." But if you're only
interested in treating the symptoms too, then you are competing directly
with the OpenSSL people, and I'm not sure how much better you will fare.

I'm really tired now, and I will try and reply more constructively tomorrow.

Ian

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Richard Stallman <rms-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> I don't know prolog, and even if I did, reading so much code would
> take a lot of time.  I don't see a point, because all that example can
> prove is that some subtle of sabotage is _possible_.  I'd rather just
> agree that it is possible.  (I already did.)
>
> I think our community's distributed build practices would make it
> difficult for such a sabotage to hit the whole community.  Many GCC
> developers and redistributors have been bootstrapping for decades
> using their old versions.
>
> However, this suggests to me a way of investigating whether such
> sabotage is present in our tools.  It would be much less work than
> replacing the system with new "simple" software, but it would be
> a substantial job.  I think it would need funding.  I don't know
> how to get such funding, but maybe someone else does.
>
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation
> 51 Franklin St
> Boston MA 02110
> USA
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> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.
>
>

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