From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thompson, David" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:49:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87blugg7dt.fsf@pobox.com> <87r23c4109.fsf@netris.org> <87tv8726lm.fsf@gnu.org> <878spie1v3.fsf@dustycloud.org> <878spiyz3j.fsf@netris.org> <875zkmdvq9.fsf@dustycloud.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="156286"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Andy Wingo , Mark H Weaver , guile-devel To: Christopher Lemmer Webber Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 18 15:54:34 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLSi9-000eTW-DV for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 15:54:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40412 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLSi6-0002Co-NT for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLSdu-0005GD-1r for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLSds-0006Of-JX for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:50:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c]:35757) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLSds-0006Nd-1l for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com with SMTP id s7so4076800vsl.2 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 06:50:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=worcester-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5b5m4EY7WWD/l5Nzb18suizPjs2V2F766DGTttnf36E=; b=yMEIzudu/l/I7b7s4waIEEvYRe/BSfaijnxtAQz4H+skakEQwEH+Q1lVyMRqVhKq21 o3+7yk8oINFSGOhFNYqDm49TBRDlgwU2rzetdO5LL3PMDR+O8D5IBi+zqoE6d8+/8Fi0 +guytrn6WywxjAazuSpeQWUqJ2IR355DjX0R5axmICAfML6ksq2+9FZdUK39LVY9OqXC 5c8e7GYSG5R7iuImOVnrQmhI0Usi7/qAy8Jdz1qS56DjygJigG5AfMQHjBgYD6+ELTVg nZsPpQJXuE3VOcYQo8FTBRx5SC0yJTy/oBySnyXFKEj1jKPP5hC+cVxgWtvse9FpsMuK J4Qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5b5m4EY7WWD/l5Nzb18suizPjs2V2F766DGTttnf36E=; b=hiQlff8tHTQ74hjH8RMbVcsfpxF6cgLZfIcTFOYfgJHPQAcVDtaW/h4GOecq4yMM0B iVA/gmoHEKxvRzlgY19q9tPXN3CGn+odfTh2OMXsN/kDvTDGFTi6j9iK0Q+0WPawLGRP zb3laZN5zVXBZB+287ZawoMo5Y2Rr5GfIgWwA0MFN7eSrOlQWWV01my/LZIe0TiIr9iw ocXNScji3usG+qQice75guSbS1PLuzTj3lMiQg0I3vLZFXoUnpNwyMFpTFXlAh1c5Mn5 xhyIIO9dq4gz1liyNUDpDvOVIWmPXgCBjxog6iBiiY/q4AwWQMmCHlACTTvqi7LEOZ/d iwbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUMfqswFLIHGwN0VogkhD0Tf5c2KAKOgC+e1X6M4rUcpowuQzg+ TQi2BhTTqGfOGAaT8stZUn8Tju5aocLW2kja/LzS5g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzLi70PC+S7U5gEGmheAGMFqv2ES11QSizZFXaTxeIWeNgDdUTyCxLfbJJ86dT6W5uLwXKBczcUZTcVKVE/iVQ= X-Received: by 2002:a67:fbc1:: with SMTP id o1mr5440165vsr.1.1571406607166; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 06:50:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <875zkmdvq9.fsf@dustycloud.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20112 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:33 AM Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: > > Mark H Weaver writes: > > > [resending with fixed headers, for proper threading] > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: > >> I think *RMS's* action of unilaterally re-appointing Mark without > >> notifying or asking the other maintainers > > > > Did you not see my recent correction about this? I CC'd you, > > but maybe something went wrong. Please see: > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00031.html > > > > I'll respond to the rest of your post in a future message. > > Oh, I didn't see it... my mistake. (I am in extreme email backlog mode, > but that's no excuse: I should have read the rest of the thread before > posting.) > > I appreciate you clarifying this and do find that dramatically less > jarring than if there was a unilateral appointment. Yes, this is less worrisome. All I wish is that the maintainer team be built on mutual respect and cooperation rather than the divine appointments of a dictator. I hope everyone can come to an agreement. - Dave