So, here's my next installment on using guile-2.9.2. The first installment said that I'd piled up CPU-months of guile 2.9.2 experience without any crashes. Well, now, a different workload crashes in minutes. Below is a highly simplified, edited gdb session -- it crashes because it unexpectedly aborts, during an abort(!) because `get_callee_vcode()` failed. Harrumpf. Background: there are 140 threads, half in guile, the other half waiting for guile to finish. Yes, that's too many, but anyways ... 70 threads in guile and one crashed: #2 0x00007f85d3f6ecdb in capture_delimited_continuation ( current_registers=, dynstack=, saved_registers=, saved_mra=, saved_fp=, vp=) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1327 #3 abort_to_prompt (thread=0x15f692dc0, saved_mra=) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1454 Both frames are interesting, because libguile/vm.c:1327 shows if (SCM_FRAME_DYNAMIC_LINK (base_fp) != saved_fp) abort(); hey!? who called this? line 1454 is in the middle of abort_to_prompt () Yow! an unexpected abort during an abort... How did we get here? #15 0x00007f85d3eedeb5 in scm_error_scm (key=key@entry=0xdc5420, subr=, message=message@entry=0x1607c9380, args=args@entry=0x15af130e0, data=data@entry=0x15af130f0) at ../../libguile/error.c:90 #16 0x00007f85d3eedf4f in scm_error (key=0xdc5420, subr=subr@entry=0x0, message=message@entry=0x7f85d3fa228c "Wrong type to apply: ~S", args=0x15af130e0, rest=rest@entry=0x15af130f0) at ../../libguile/error.c:62 #17 0x00007f85d3f6f913 in get_callee_vcode (thread=0x15f692dc0) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1527 and libguile/vm.c:1527 tells me that get_callee_vcode () is very unhappy. But why? I cannot tell .. after that, things peter out in boring stack frames that started with my call scm_c_catch() ... the same seemingly harmless call that is pending in 70 other threads. (the same call that has survived several CPU month of pounding with a different collection of scheme code) My best guess is that the current workload, by unintentionally launching gobs of threads is exposing a race condition that has been hithertho hidden. I don't know how to debug any further. I will try a slightly newer guile shortly, to see if I get lucky. -- Linas p.s. here's the whole stack trace. But really, its boring, except for the above highlights. (gdb) bt #0 0x00007f85d38ef428 in __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=6) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:54 #1 0x00007f85d38f102a in __GI_abort () at abort.c:89 #2 0x00007f85d3f6ecdb in capture_delimited_continuation ( current_registers=, dynstack=, saved_registers=, saved_mra=, saved_fp=, vp=) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1327 #3 abort_to_prompt (thread=0x15f692dc0, saved_mra=) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1454 #4 0x00007f85ac539041 in ?? () #5 0x00007f85ac37f040 in ?? () #6 0x00007f85d41e10c0 in jump_table_ () from /usr/local/lib/libguile-3.0.so.0 #7 0x000000015f692dc0 in ?? () #8 0x00007f85d3f19581 in scm_jit_enter_mcode (thread=0x15f692dc0, mcode=0x15f692dc0 "\200\205\267_\001") at ../../libguile/jit.c:4796 #9 0x00007f85d3f70600 in vm_debug_engine (thread=0x7f85ac539000) at ../../libguile/vm-engine.c:370 #10 0x00007f85d3f76db2 in scm_call_n (proc=proc@entry=0xe45a20, argv=, nargs=5) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1605 #11 0x00007f85d3eefdcb in scm_apply_0 (proc=0xe45a20, args=0x304) at ../../libguile/eval.c:603 #12 0x00007f85d3ef0a0d in scm_apply_1 (proc=, arg1=arg1@entry=0xdc5420, args=args@entry=0x15af130a0) at ../../libguile/eval.c:609 #13 0x00007f85d3f6c546 in scm_throw (key=key@entry=0xdc5420, args=0x15af130a0) at ../../libguile/throw.c:272 #14 0x00007f85d3f6caf9 in scm_ithrow (key=key@entry=0xdc5420, args=, no_return=no_return@entry=1) at ../../libguile/throw.c:619 #15 0x00007f85d3eedeb5 in scm_error_scm (key=key@entry=0xdc5420, subr=, message=message@entry=0x1607c9380, args=args@entry=0x15af130e0, data=data@entry=0x15af130f0) at ../../libguile/error.c:90 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #16 0x00007f85d3eedf4f in scm_error (key=0xdc5420, subr=subr@entry=0x0, message=message@entry=0x7f85d3fa228c "Wrong type to apply: ~S", args=0x15af130e0, rest=rest@entry=0x15af130f0) at ../../libguile/error.c:62 #17 0x00007f85d3f6f913 in get_callee_vcode (thread=0x15f692dc0) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1527 #18 0x00007f85b4314805 in ?? () #19 0x00007f85b428a000 in ?? () #20 0x00007f85d41e10c0 in jump_table_ () from /usr/local/lib/libguile-3.0.so.0 #21 0x000000015f692dc0 in ?? () #22 0x00007f85d3f19581 in scm_jit_enter_mcode (thread=0x15f692dc0, mcode=0x15f692dc0 "\200\205\267_\001") at ../../libguile/jit.c:4796 #23 0x00007f85d3f70600 in vm_debug_engine (thread=0x2) at ../../libguile/vm-engine.c:370 #24 0x00007f85d3f76db2 in scm_call_n (proc=, argv=argv@entry=0x7f7e85fe2600, nargs=nargs@entry=3) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1605 #25 0x00007f85d3eef97f in scm_call_3 (proc=, arg1=, arg2=, arg3=) at ../../libguile/eval.c:510 #26 0x00007f85d4262b6f in ?? () #27 0x00007f85d4262a80 in ?? () #28 0x00007f85d41e10c0 in jump_table_ () from /usr/local/lib/libguile-3.0.so.0 #29 0x000000015f692dc0 in ?? () #30 0x00007f85d3f19581 in scm_jit_enter_mcode (thread=0x15f692dc0, mcode=0x15f692dc0 "\200\205\267_\001") at ../../libguile/jit.c:4796 #31 0x00007f85d3f70600 in vm_debug_engine (thread=0x304) at ../../libguile/vm-engine.c:370 #32 0x00007f85d3f76db2 in scm_call_n (proc=proc@entry=0x15b341ee0, argv=argv@entry=0x0, nargs=nargs@entry=0) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1605 #33 0x00007f85d3eef8d9 in scm_call_0 (proc=proc@entry=0x15b341ee0) at ../../libguile/eval.c:490 #34 0x00007f85d3f6c1aa in catch (tag=tag@entry=0x404, thunk=0x15b341ee0, handler=0x15b341ec0, pre_unwind_handler=0x15b341ea0) at ../../libguile/throw.c:146 #35 0x00007f85d3f6c505 in scm_catch_with_pre_unwind_handler (key=key@entry=0x404, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- thunk=, handler=, pre_unwind_handler=) at ../../libguile/throw.c:260 #36 0x00007f85d3f6c6bf in scm_c_catch (tag=tag@entry=0x404, body=, body_data=, handler=handler@entry=0x7f85c95d0f00 , handler_data=handler_data@entry=0x7f7e60000980, pre_unwind_handler=pre_unwind_handler@entry=0x7f85c95d0c40 , pre_unwind_handler_data=0x7f7e60000980) at ../../libguile/throw.c:385 #37 0x00007f85c95d122a in opencog::SchemeEval::do_eval (this=0x7f7e60000980, expr="(observe-mpg \"The countess, with her loving heart, felt that her children were being ruined, that it was not the count's fault for he could not help being what he was -- that (though he tried to hide "...) at /home/ubuntu/src/atomspace/opencog/guile/SchemeEval.cc:590 #38 0x00007f85c95d12aa in opencog::SchemeEval::c_wrap_eval (p=0x7f7e60000980) at /home/ubuntu/src/atomspace/opencog/guile/SchemeEval.cc:507 #39 0x00007f85d3eeb47a in c_body (d=0x7f7e85fe2d40) at ../../libguile/continuations.c:430 #40 0x00007f85d4262b6f in ?? () #41 0x00007f85d4262a80 in ?? () #42 0x00007f85d41e10c0 in jump_table_ () from /usr/local/lib/libguile-3.0.so.0 #43 0x000000015f692dc0 in ?? () #44 0x00007f85d3f19581 in scm_jit_enter_mcode (thread=0x15f692dc0, mcode=0x15f692dc0 "\200\205\267_\001") at ../../libguile/jit.c:4796 #45 0x00007f85d3f70600 in vm_debug_engine (thread=0x304) at ../../libguile/vm-engine.c:370 #46 0x00007f85d3f76db2 in scm_call_n (proc=proc@entry=0x15b341fe0, argv=argv@entry=0x0, nargs=nargs@entry=0) at ../../libguile/vm.c:1605 #47 0x00007f85d3eef8d9 in scm_call_0 (proc=proc@entry=0x15b341fe0) at ../../libguile/eval.c:490 #48 0x00007f85d3f6c1aa in catch (tag=tag@entry=0x404, thunk=0x15b341fe0, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- handler=0x15b341fc0, pre_unwind_handler=0x15b341fa0) at ../../libguile/throw.c:146 #49 0x00007f85d3f6c505 in scm_catch_with_pre_unwind_handler (key=key@entry=0x404, thunk=, handler=, pre_unwind_handler=) at ../../libguile/throw.c:260 #50 0x00007f85d3f6c6bf in scm_c_catch (tag=tag@entry=0x404, body=body@entry=0x7f85d3eeb470 , body_data=body_data@entry=0x7f7e85fe2d40, handler=handler@entry=0x7f85d3eeb720 , handler_data=handler_data@entry=0x7f7e85fe2d40, pre_unwind_handler=pre_unwind_handler@entry=0x7f85d3eeb580 , pre_unwind_handler_data=0xe174a0) at ../../libguile/throw.c:385 #51 0x00007f85d3eeb9e3 in scm_i_with_continuation_barrier ( body=body@entry=0x7f85d3eeb470 , body_data=body_data@entry=0x7f7e85fe2d40, handler=handler@entry=0x7f85d3eeb720 , handler_data=handler_data@entry=0x7f7e85fe2d40, pre_unwind_handler=pre_unwind_handler@entry=0x7f85d3eeb580 , pre_unwind_handler_data=0xe174a0) at ../../libguile/continuations.c:368 #52 0x00007f85d3eebac5 in scm_c_with_continuation_barrier (func=, data=) at ../../libguile/continuations.c:464 #53 0x00007f85d3575127 in GC_call_with_gc_active ( fn=fn@entry=0x7f85d3f6a070 , client_data=client_data@entry=0x7f7e85fe2e20) at ../pthread_support.c:1343 #54 0x00007f85d3f6ac4f in with_guile (base=base@entry=0x7f7e85fe2df0, data=data@entry=0x7f7e85fe2e20) at ../../libguile/threads.c:683 #55 0x00007f85d356f132 in GC_call_with_stack_base ( fn=fn@entry=0x7f85d3f6abb0 , arg=arg@entry=0x7f7e85fe2e20) at ../misc.c:1941 #56 0x00007f85d3f6aff8 in scm_i_with_guile (dynamic_state=, data=0x7f7e60000980, func=0x7f85c95d1290 ) at ../../libguile/threads.c:698 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #57 scm_with_guile ( func=func@entry=0x7f85c95d1290 , data=data@entry=0x7f7e60000980) at ../../libguile/threads.c:704 #58 0x00007f85c95d126e in opencog::SchemeEval::eval_expr (this=0x7f7e60000980, expr=...) at /home/ubuntu/src/atomspace/opencog/guile/SchemeEval.cc:479 #59 0x00007f85bc783439 in opencog::GenericShell::eval_loop (this=0x7f7ef0001e90) at /home/ubuntu/src/opencog/opencog/cogserver/shell/GenericShell.cc:588 #60 0x00007f85c6e5ac80 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 #61 0x00007f85d3c916ba in start_thread (arg=0x7f7e85fe3700) at pthread_create.c:333 #62 0x00007f85d39c141d in clone () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:109 (gdb) -- cassette tapes - analog TV - film cameras - you