From: William ML Leslie <william.leslie.ttg-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ian Grant <ian.a.n.grant-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>,
guile-devel <guile-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>,
lightning <lightning-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>,
schellr-EkmVulN54Sk@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: GNU Thunder
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 11:39:44 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHgd1hEP2=dnqXTQx-EdozAXc0vjYh0ucthbyWFnPecQqB=7pw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On 7 September 2014 01:49, Ian Grant <ian.a.n.grant-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> You are just not at all convincing, I'm afraid. Tell your boss they didn't
> train you properly, and can you get assigned somewhere else.
>
Unfortunately, this is a reality we have to deal with when discussing
security on the internet: we've got to assume the enemy is listening. It
could be me, I could even be intercepting your emails and making them sound
incoherrent, and upping the tinfoil-hat quotient by adding people like
Theo and Linus to the To: list. I could be suggesting that effort be spent
in a project that will provide very little value, wasting your time.
Remember: I'm not suggesting what the outcome of your project will be,
just that if the result is negative, we still know nothing. When testing a
system for subterfuge, we need to examine *all* of the moving parts, even
those that appear to be unused. If the system you're building your
assembler on is compromised, it can still give you a negative answer.
That's what was so scary about this particular type of attack.
--
William Leslie
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-07 1:39 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <CAKFjmdzP89qSD03_MGqS1UawQvaq6yvme-abKcmLuA8DfUQE+A@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <E1XKsRt-0002zo-64@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <CAKFjmdyUphk2LmDdDE_7gkDSKAu4COurtvafBwO5XwCgyM1OfA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <E1XLP5I-0005zC-Sn@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <E1XLP5I-0005zC-Sn-iW7gFb+/I3LZHJUXO5efmti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 20:59 ` GNU Thunder Ian Grant
2014-08-25 22:56 ` Trusting trust Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <CAKFjmdxt4jWAHAYXjzwPeUw+dTUBTPC94YJDNifsO7JVkNHjTQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-31 0:20 ` GNU Thunder Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1XNssG-00083e-BB-iW7gFb+/I3LZHJUXO5efmti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 1:52 ` Ian Grant
2014-09-03 12:50 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1XPA13-0002hD-Kp-iW7gFb+/I3LZHJUXO5efmti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-04 1:53 ` Ian Grant
[not found] ` <CAKFjmdyc0D5vYBK=rQKzKNK+WRmWhkkL-RXqBMSHvhOzX3fHiw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-05 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1XPifZ-0004g6-KA-iW7gFb+/I3LZHJUXO5efmti2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-06 1:40 ` Ian Grant
[not found] ` <CAKFjmdwEs8TtPZjXWDYKoQXz4FEKy6p3T9+8jWLMY87Onn=VaQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-06 8:32 ` William ML Leslie
[not found] ` <CAKFjmdzzRoTdzWxAOh2byRbWDtszWZtt8Z2k0eLCFYR+qmAC9g@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAKFjmdzzRoTdzWxAOh2byRbWDtszWZtt8Z2k0eLCFYR+qmAC9g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-07 1:39 ` William ML Leslie [this message]
2014-09-07 13:18 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
[not found] ` <87iokzefgv.fsf-uVHYNzLEwI3da1iInxiBqA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 1:00 ` Ian Grant
2014-09-06 15:09 ` GNU Thunder [Comments on Subversins from Ian Grant and Richard Stallman of GNU] Dr. Roger R. Schell
2014-09-06 17:49 ` GNU Thunder Ian Grant
2014-08-24 0:42 Ian Grant
2014-08-24 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2014-08-24 5:13 ` Mike Gerwitz
2014-08-25 20:23 ` Ian Grant
2014-08-27 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
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