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From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe <stefan.itampe@gmail.com>
To: guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Pausable continuations
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:10:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGua6m2XA_ezy0RKXja4FqdUD5-VdQjW=wM4Y9VGZrm1-_GwOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGua6m1bo-goH5n_34-pNmMAA9we9YpcBSWtY62JT63scWw4CA@mail.gmail.com>

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Hmm, I can improve the delimited continuation speed slightly by doing the
below code


(define prompt (list 1))
(define (f2)
  (let lp ((i 0))
    (when (< i 20000000)
      (begin
        (abort-to-prompt prompt)
        (lp (+ i 1)))))
  #f)

 ; 5.906402s real time, 12.297234s run time.  8.894807s spent in GC.

So we are actually around 12X faster.

(define (test2)
  (let lp ((k f2))
    (let ((k (call-with-prompt prompt k (lambda (k) k))))
      (if k (lp k) #f))))


On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:06 PM Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.itampe@gmail.com> wrote:

> I managed to make jitted code work for an example, speeds up the code up
> 2x. So in 1s ther is 40M ops per s
> overhead in the generator construct, that's essentially 4x slower the
> fastest it can do in a very simple loop. And matches
> pythons generators and are 15x faster than the example code I have above.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 4:19 PM Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
> stefan.itampe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did some benchmark, consider this code below. Let's turn off the jit.
>> Then
>> a 20M loop using normal delimited continuations yields,
>>
>> ;; 7.866898s real time, 14.809225s run time.  9.652291s spent in GC
>>
>> With a pausing continuation or generator we end up with,
>> ;; 0.965947s real time, 0.965588s run time.  0.000000s spent in GC.
>>
>> python 3's similar generator example is executing at 0.5s for the same
>> looop.
>> so using delimited continuations to model pythons generators we have an
>> overhead of around 15X.
>>
>> With jit,
>> ;; 6.678504s real time, 13.589789s run time.  9.560317s spent in GC.
>>
>> So we can't really get any speedup help from guile's jit here. The paused
>> jit version is not available as I have not figured out how to do this jet.
>>
>> (define prompt (list 1))
>> (define (f)
>>   (let lp ((i 0))
>>     (when (< i 20000000)
>>       (begin
>>         (abort-to-prompt prompt)
>>         (lp (+ i 1))))))
>>
>> (define (test2)
>>   (let lp ((k f))
>>     (call-with-prompt prompt k lp)))
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 2:07 PM Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
>> stefan.itampe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Consider a memory barrier idiom constructed from
>>> 0, (mk-stack)
>>> 1. (enter x)
>>> 2. (pause x)
>>> 3. (leave x)
>>>
>>> The idea is that we create a separate stack object and when entering it,
>>> we will swap the current stack with the one in the argument saving the
>>> current stack in x  and be in the 'child' state and move to a paused
>>> position in case of a pause, when pausing stack x, we will return to where
>>> after where entered saving the current position in stack and ip, and be in
>>> state 'pause' and when we leave we will be in the state 'leave and move
>>> to the old stack, using the current
>>> ip. At first encounter the function stack frame is copied over hence
>>> there will be a fork limited to the function only.
>>>
>>> This means that we essentially can define a generator as
>>> (define (g x)
>>>   (let lp ((n 0))
>>>     (if (< n 10)
>>>         (begin
>>>            (pause x)
>>>            (lp (+ n 1))))))
>>>
>>> And use it as
>>> (define (test)
>>>     (let ((x (mk-stack)))
>>>         (let lp ()
>>>            (case (enter x)
>>>                ((pause)
>>>                    (pk 'pause)
>>>                    (lp))
>>>                 ((child)
>>>                  (g x)
>>>                  (leave x))))))))
>>>
>>> A paused or leaved stack cannot be paused, an entered stack cannot be
>>> entered and one cannot leave a paused stack, but enter a leaved stack.
>>>
>>> Anyhow this idea is modeled like a fork command instead of functional
>>> and have the benefit over delimited continuations that one does not need to
>>> copy the whole stack and potentially speed up generator like constructs.
>>> But not only this, writing efficient prolog code is possible as well. We
>>> could simplify a lot of the generation of prolog code, speed it up and also
>>> improve compiler speed of prolog code significantly.
>>>
>>> How would we approach the  prolog code. The simplest system is to use
>>> return the
>>> alternate pause stack when succeeding things becomes very simple,
>>>
>>> x   = stack to pause to in case of failure
>>> cc = the continuation
>>>
>>> (<and> (x cc)  goal1 goal2)
>>>      :: (cc (goal1 (goal2 x))
>>>
>>> (<or >   (x cc)  goal1 goal2)
>>>     ::  (let ((xx (mkstack)))
>>>              (case (enter xx)
>>>                  ((child)
>>>                   (cc (goal2 xx)))
>>>
>>>                 ((pause)
>>>                  (cc (goal2 x)))))
>>>
>>> Very elegant, and we also can use some heuristics to store already made
>>> stacks when
>>> leaving a stack and reuse at the next enter which is a common theme in
>>> prolog,
>>>
>>> Anyhow we have an issue, consider the case where everythings
>>> succeds forever. Then we will blow the stack . There is no concept of tail
>>> calls here. So what you can do is the following for an <and>,
>>>
>>> (let ((xx (mk-stack)))
>>>     (case (enter xx)
>>>       ((child)
>>>        (goal1 x (lambda (xxx) (pause xx xxx)))
>>>
>>>       ((pause xxx)
>>>          (goal2 xxx cc))))
>>>
>>> This enable cuts so that a cutted and (and!) in kanren lingo will use
>>> (goal2 x cc)
>>>
>>> And we have tail calls!
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a non jitted version guile working as a proof of concept.
>>>
>>> The drawback with this is if a function uses a lot of stack, it will be
>>> a memory hog.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-10 13:07 Pausable continuations Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-10 15:19 ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-11 12:06   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-11 12:10     ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe [this message]
2022-02-11 18:56       ` Vijay Marupudi
     [not found]         ` <CAGua6m24aa+goaczoX-UaDCsGnKEAE6sBfH8Xx-2ks0UjOyvUQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-02-13  9:34           ` Fwd: " Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-13  9:34       ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-13 10:27 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2022-02-13 10:31   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-17  6:07     ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2022-02-17 16:37       ` Vijay Marupudi

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