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From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe <stefan.itampe@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Gaylard <a.gaylard@gmail.com>
Cc: guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: persistant state in guile-log
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:32:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGua6m1hwhMS1MN2wMorXjPfFaTaYLbyLX=1c8Etd=5Aika_2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56A88512.7070006@gmail.com>

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>> This is definitely something that's of interest to me.
fine, then I know that it can be a useful library. But there need to be a
discussion about an official interface or method
to persist them and I hope that guile maintainers will chime in on this and
enlight us.

> is it human-readable or just readable by guile?
My format is readable and read in to guile via read

> In addition it would be great for guile to be able to reason about the
current state: e.g. walk the call stack and examine what's in it, or even
change it.  (Perhaps this is already possible, I
> haven't checked.)
i don't know about modifying the stack, but inspect ut is quite possible.

Regards
Stefan

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Andrew Gaylard <a.gaylard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stefan,
>
> This is definitely something that's of interest to me.  Closures are one
> of the great strengths of scheme, and have been very useful to me in the
> past.
>
> I'd love it for guile to have an "official" way to work with them,
> including your load/save semantics.  What's the format of the saved state?
> — is it human-readable or just readable by guile?
>
> In addition it would be great for guile to be able to reason about the
> current state: e.g. walk the call stack and examine what's in it, or even
> change it.  (Perhaps this is already possible, I haven't checked.)
>
> --
> Andrew
>
>
> On 27/01/2016 10:13, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> In guile 2.1 the position of code segements are fixed relative certain
> vectors and this makes it
> possible to store indexes of code segements and as a possibility to
> persist closures. I took advatage of this because state in guile-log means
> that we must do exactly that. Persist not only datastructures like struct
> lists and vectors vhashes etc, but also persist closures. So now one can do
> cool things in guile-prolog like:
>
> prolog>  X=1,stall,Y=2.
> prolog> .setp 1
> prolog> .savep
> prolog> .quit
>
> stis> guile-prolog
> prolog> .loadp
> prolog>  .refp 1
> prolog> .cont
>
>   X=1
>   Y=2
>
> prolog>
> This is the interface:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> (.setp        ) <key>       associate current state to key
> (.refp        ) <key>       instate state referenced by key to current
> state
> (.savep       )             save all referenced states to disk
> (.loadp       )             load new referenced states from disk
> (.cont         )             continue a stalled predicate from current
> state
>
> I can make this persistant code into a library anyone interested?
>
> Oh the security implications of this is horrible but I don't pretend that
> guile-log is secure so
> I don't care. What's more demading is that it depends on groveling into
> guile internal datastructures. Therefore I am reqesting an official way of
> persisting closures. What's your take on that? Would you
> guy's want to supply such a mechansim or is it bad practice?
>
> regards
> Stefan
>
>
>

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Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-27  8:13 persistant state in guile-log Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2016-01-27  8:51 ` Andrew Gaylard
2016-01-27 11:32   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe [this message]

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