From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Thomas Morley Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Logo baseline Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 23:57:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87a76kx3g2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="30827"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Andy Wingo , Guile Devel To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 23:58:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1isx2m-0007yc-0E for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 23:58:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45580 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1isx2k-00085m-HI for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39189) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1isx2Z-00085Z-T3 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:58:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1isx2Y-00028C-UE for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:58:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::330]:52005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1isx2W-00025o-O3; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 17:58:00 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id d73so10813482wmd.1; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:58:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ay0C9m6xe2h1cIuh2nDV4Fe1j2J4k3S8MvJxlCVwfR4=; b=Kal2cDsm0neRxp2olhXaPCztXrnw6ZLvlZNpb9e9jvX1NCwyx209RYk+mdYTq3Ma83 GN73Xg3MIZ/3aT381UJnFc+euqxt12taJfh2Y88F0bcwOT1662HRX3RKvgwLmCC6oyQM kJz8gD92WYdJ9AIHl064qxhWA8EmdBRIAKyA45UGk5FlqvlQeWwt940tq6PHlwPrlhGd UTWOkTvVpM2uXhWdToQbvztisqZh+X3V6FIuZ5JomiTjKMtkWl22j6x25e8TgCMlB4D3 EptAVMOacjmDCvUHx73O95lY3xjEihkvKCFf6hUxh4BD+1ZrBNbMDokUA1fcCZaAh/Pr ykdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ay0C9m6xe2h1cIuh2nDV4Fe1j2J4k3S8MvJxlCVwfR4=; b=fa9MkVw5sxMy7cSjWVzIYJZ5UYU5eH46+Ol6f3VdgBjB9JpXtHSzAKPGZvVYmBjwiC uJ4wpY/uiqYKHAXyeQZjtC8JZkZ+4TS6NA7U9H2ivYfsntBM2Q60m0LWR7vOcZTRXgGo 2FzSVSyLv52QsI+eUq7n9Nbe0ykiXFLAkAJPEQyVBlCb5iSdB30sq3/nJRvWuxGGFxP3 YMFUYchClwMuq89HSfE4Sym9QewG16pRlruvgKPB6NBqew1MPvL+t3MhKC1Dzrna9Ib1 6uqPqLtO7Sg7qOHU4QhqfWavGZgUP4k+6xFJ75vryZNqeSox117/EtZZhnp4KlUbDNeg yclA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU0szbfr+9SVhlUXF/zWJsctjn2z3KXCropBjbHJrMKC6Z3R7Nn VxuWwydLHbwYhtQZvAoyXeKhGHD184oSGKWlk+ILow== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzTPv13r6H2o/reJtffI41doSZoD4cCjTxSNfFYUQWqXURiCjZZqI8gsDGV9YJPO/tYF7dza6orTj0DuGWhc+s= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:730b:: with SMTP id d11mr11519194wmb.30.1579388278670; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:57:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a76kx3g2.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::330 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20301 Archived-At: Am Sa., 18. Jan. 2020 um 15:14 Uhr schrieb Ludovic Court=C3=A8s : > > Hello Guilers! > > The Guile logo has this =E2=80=9CGNU extension language=E2=80=9D baseline= . As Guile 3 > came out, this baseline felt odd to me, not quite corresponding to the > way I see Guile. > > Clearly, Guile is still an extension language, with many great > applications (Gnucash, Lepton-EDA, OpenCog, GDB, etc.), and I=E2=80=99m s= ure > libguile is here to stay. Well, you forgot LilyPond > Yet, to me, =E2=80=9Cextension language=E2=80=9D does not > accurately capture what Guile today allows for and what people have been > doing with it; since 2.0, it=E2=80=99s more than an extension language, e= ven > more so with the performance afforded by Guile 3. > > Thus, I=E2=80=99d propose changing the baseline. Something that would de= scribe > what Guile is to me is: > > GNU, fast, fun, functional > > What=E2=80=99s about you? What=E2=80=99s Guile to you? :-) > > Ludo=E2=80=99. Well, for me, Guile's _the_ extension language for my LilyPond. It may be more, it may have become more. And yes, I used Guile for some other stuff as well. Nevertheless, it remains the language to extend LilyPond. It feels very strange dropping said phrase. Cheers, Harm