From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mikael Djurfeldt Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: GPT-4 knows Guile! :) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:34:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mikael@djurfeldt.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003de8f905f7289229" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19096"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, Mikael Djurfeldt To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 18 09:35:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdS2F-0004i8-3E for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:35:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdS1x-0007kP-RG; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdS1v-0007cv-BR for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f51.google.com ([209.85.208.51]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdS1t-0006id-Me for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-f51.google.com with SMTP id fd5so28728019edb.7 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 01:35:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679128508; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=chQS2Kr7JKoxAyURZJ3+Q5Ixs53wLHrBIWH0eP7e7wU=; b=KNB/pH3rdhqSnxSww9RT9MZuP88gYzpQX5UxFX6yHE6bkFkn+HQxMyOnFzBeba2BO8 eRNvb+xnTuhfI3OKzWaIE6JR65QkEVm/7F1qbGvIwG2F4TQ9Vk+x93kbuqKHbSOHnBlp yKvy3Mk3KSSIo+GirsB88ksdUNOw0/8wAoJpZd2n+KLkrx9k095ks1y/1P1LlmG6YYpw ScCD66FEZD+xjHY8KB3ieX9xaqVIx1sdT8dRePajjJN/ww9/lf58ZLJwGgzon1XXpHU3 3truvvK1rbGxmTnis1Mv0qu8lQ1BLIcxbNdDg/RPKn0Jt5KlJ/7TwGC5T6PUKsCbISBn nluA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKV7/M34UeY/Y00jnHluQZQVIM/IgaNaFF/uxyGSj7GWB2XT/5U6 RluJqXOYFLP85dmqjRwamZo7dwnoyTLyNYnb5/g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+WPkyxrVbGJdt8ph3p1FHmTnMTLNa8p96kv07TP0Yix8fJl9Pwt/poeECyg4kdNJmKTTR1j2bGqwJfzD9MvVY= X-Received: by 2002:a50:8e14:0:b0:4fb:f19:883 with SMTP id 20-20020a508e14000000b004fb0f190883mr3161719edw.1.1679128507835; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 01:35:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.208.51; envelope-from=mdjurfeldt@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-f51.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21788 Archived-At: --0000000000003de8f905f7289229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM wrote: > This is what I was hinting at with that pastiche of Hanlon's Razor > and Clarke's Third Law. If you're doing statistical "AI", no harm > is provably intended. But the dice might be loaded ;-) > Yes, this is an important point. And it is sometimes possible to see a bias in the OpenAI engines towards what texts (and thus opinions) that are commonly occuring on the internet. > > When I then just marked a region in the browser and > > copied, the text from the title windows got copied too (and *I*, being = a > > bit sloppy, didn't notice it :). > > Those small details are the interesting parts. :-) > true --0000000000003de8f905f7289229 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM &= lt;tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
This is what I was hinting at with that pastiche of Hanlon's Razor and Clarke's Third Law. If you're doing statistical "AI",= no harm
is provably intended. But the dice might be loaded ;-)

Yes, this is an important point. And it is sometimes possib= le to see a bias in the OpenAI engines towards what texts (and thus opinion= s) that are commonly occuring on the internet.
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>=C2=A0 When I then just marked a region in the browser and
> copied, the text from the title windows got copied too (and *I*, being= a
> bit sloppy, didn't notice it :).

Those small details are the interesting parts. :-)
true
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