From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mikael Djurfeldt Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: syntax closures Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:42:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ip6pv0jm.fsf@pobox.com> <87d2wxqikf.fsf@pobox.com> Reply-To: mikael@djurfeldt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360834998 32064 80.91.229.3 (14 Feb 2013 09:43:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andy Wingo , guile-devel To: Stefan Israelsson Tampe Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 10:43:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U5vLt-00050s-Rj for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:43:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37573 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5vLa-0003QT-8z for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:43:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45359) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5vLO-00036z-J8 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:43:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5vLI-00051M-KF for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:43:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f50.google.com ([74.125.83.50]:41537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5vLI-00051I-EL for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:43:00 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f50.google.com with SMTP id e51so1109787eek.9 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:42:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=V2NUiGgMk0OPL9GdiToVbFZpO6UQQCnLUdXKr2Wj6JI=; b=PSbteXGS7XLaBRjagnIB2D0JtRymf+kFp78q5RUZOTWvHirh6/S6h5ycBbKR5gMjde et0fVNlnQe5DwrzeWhTgsoE4oPAJQDB8g3hp965koK9VkaVNpbwwBxC21jU/niQFlWGl Ro1bEPtfiscWlATqBL6H3ORcyuw0Yi7Ez4OJIB4LrQMgtS1iZzaHpWILew3wsk0iomVe 6XsI4ZFZqiN3QLvtvTrSHgyUu/ocO0qjpOzrNyTltgsvwN2CzOFPFcYLW1lVwkXb7IDg xEo6O+idy8+ox2QQQDHGuvWRlKr4X8vePofcTX0EsrJYJMTT8/aBh0pNbDedToKmzsN6 tD4g== X-Received: by 10.14.3.133 with SMTP id 5mr52849986eeh.43.1360834979508; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:42:59 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.14.225.2 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:42:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: dzu_oS1tQMdL0F8v4TfGyUjwRM8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 74.125.83.50 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:15741 Archived-At: Just saw this. Right, "syntactic closures" is the name of a macro system by Alan Bawden and Jonathan Rees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_closures http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-ref/Syntactic-Closures.html#Syntactic-Closures So, it would be good to choose a different name if what you are doing is different. BTW, the sc-macro-transformer facility of MIT-scheme would be nice to have. :-) Best regards, Mikael D. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Alex Shinn wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe > wrote: >> >> >> 2. I was actually hesistant to call this srfi-72 because of trying to >> do what it want >> more than what it say's. A main trick to simulate the effect was to >> introduce >> a closure in the syntax at one point and therefore a choose the name >> syntax-closure not knowing that there is an already a notion of >> that in the wild > > > Oh - I thought you were referring to the existing syntactic-closures. > I guess it's a plausible enough name to reuse coincidentally... > > Carry on then :) > > -- > Alex >