From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mikael Djurfeldt Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: GPT-4 knows Guile! :) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:11:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mikael@djurfeldt.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c2abd105f7283f94" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31798"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 18 09:12:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRfl-00083L-Jb for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:12:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRfc-0002sq-F6; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRfb-0002sh-2K for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f42.google.com ([209.85.208.42]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdRfZ-0000o8-FW for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-f42.google.com with SMTP id cy23so28566425edb.12 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 01:12:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679127124; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=/qxOnYP8n5oxsCvVXYAgOTg4Ilul6KBU6x71jwsfZwo=; b=POSRCGop8lhgloh3jDfEJR9SHfOllGw0XhV9quqjVdaGlR43izO5ugJc9ob4Dms4dr bw8GaoElDkfr7Ex50yWc+tg1hB8cW1woJx7UNuyZtUf7SdVDnxXndQqpX9+22KZyi8nU 8EpItLNNfkyFRrOqE5C5X/GK0Jf1JvIESsGuFYbl481+8x9ymlPAZiBi4wWXZHz8lN8B cwd3LW0wwPNKdJqYRy/qgrEcZsXhaoMHzUQc3apjLZ06MSgkM8yL40MFihf71w9RKRUe bkfyBP6bek620Cr7ZDRrETrty3bh4Tc1McajGhkED8LdgwgC6oM6I8BO1Kd22aAhwfxC WAVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUM63jhejsxxiPBxkxwiglkgsv2weeQNKgKTmcqMkdMjkteqagN +9eUNh2XA0OvpLsCbrJFk8Dky9n+KcY6iD+TwSE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+kWUVSwQFyz4KMTzr1xcs5FPra+8Njt80kScNH9e8C4T5t8eJZ1ke+q8r3rMIQYXRLtTBeRXn2SCbFlR4jyIs= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:eb8f:b0:932:187f:6dc3 with SMTP id mh15-20020a170906eb8f00b00932187f6dc3mr1005099ejb.15.1679127124026; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 01:12:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.208.42; envelope-from=mdjurfeldt@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-f42.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21784 Archived-At: --000000000000c2abd105f7283f94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 8:55=E2=80=AFAM Mikael Djurfeldt wrote: > > 1. Install Guile: > >> > >> > csharp >> ^^^^^^ >> > >> > sudo apt-get install guile-2.2 >> >> [...] >> >> Did it literally write "csharp"? With some fantasy, I guess it >> is trying to evoke a root shell, but with some malice, I'd say >> Microsoft is sleazily touting some product of theirs. >> > > No, in the browser the bash lines were presented in windows which had the > text "bash" in the title bar, but GPT-4 is a bit sloppy in that text can > "leak in" from other documents, so the first two windows had the title > "from other documents" is bad wording. Of course this is fundamentally a neural representation which is inherently a bit fuzzy. > csharp instead of bash. When I then just marked a region in the browser > and copied, the text from the title windows got copied too (and *I*, bein= g > a bit sloppy, didn't notice it :). > > Cheers, > Mikael > > >> >> I'd apply Clarke's Razor:"A sufficiently advanced form of malice >> is not distinguishable from stupidity" >> >> ;-) >> >> Cheers >> -- >> t >> > --000000000000c2abd105f7283f94 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 8:55=E2=80=AFAM M= ikael Djurfeldt <mikael@djurfeld= t.com> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. Install G= uile:
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> csharp
=C2=A0 ^^^^^^
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> sudo apt-get install guile-2.2

[...]

Did it literally write "csharp"? With some fantasy, I guess it is trying to evoke a root shell, but with some malice, I'd say
Microsoft is sleazily touting some product of theirs.
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No, in the browser the bash lines were presented in windows = which had the text "bash" in the title bar, but GPT-4 is a bit sl= oppy in that text can "leak in" from other documents, so the firs= t two windows had the title

"from other documents" is bad wording. Of course this is funda= mentally a neural representation which is inherently a bit fuzzy.
=
=C2=A0
csharp instead of bash. When I th= en just marked a region in the browser and copied, the text from the title = windows got copied too (and *I*, being a bit sloppy, didn't notice it := ).

Cheers,
Mikael
=C2= =A0

I'd apply Clarke's Razor:"A sufficiently advanced form of mali= ce
is not distinguishable from stupidity"

;-)

Cheers
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