From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noah Lavine Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Anything better for delayed lexical evaluation than (lambda () ...)? Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:42:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87liqtpsl9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <874nxdwkbi.fsf@rapitore.luna> <87d3bvfo5d.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871usaicvi.fsf@netris.org> <87mxaycmlx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wra1hcek.fsf@netris.org> <87mxaxihnw.fsf@pobox.com> <87obvclu92.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87aa6wbp0w.fsf@pobox.com> <87fwgolgm5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8762hkbkwi.fsf@pobox.com> <87borclcem.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zkewa2vy.fsf@pobox.com> <87zkewjvyz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87vcpka13n.fsf@pobox.com> <87zkewnzy7.fsf@netris.org> <87r5089ui3.fsf@pobox.com> <87r508nv0o.fsf@netris.org> <87borc9h3a.fsf@pobox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323823381 11344 80.91.229.12 (14 Dec 2011 00:43:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mark H Weaver , David Kastrup , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Andy Wingo Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 01:42:55 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Racvu-0007hb-Os for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:42:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39830 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Racvu-0003IQ-CL for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:42:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Racvr-0003IA-MT for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:42:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Racvq-0002V4-Mh for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:42:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:49992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Racvp-0002Us-7Q; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:42:49 -0500 Original-Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so415387iah.0 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:42:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P1zyIqVOdZj9cL3FZ51J1Qea2jRZxL78c6DwcaTCG/U=; b=AZAj4sMwgQX9irA3SZECtET4/oqr9pYaSYvrkkyywNNJnd0ZsjySLoxpG8hq8Lv6jy g9oKXasQi93Ha2Mr7pHZd6eA8OebB3Pikp2P6IhP2EnAjKSBfPb4EiBB4krI8Xkolgr3 wLfBQYtgwS5/fRbgA5BviuGAIbNpMAy1WfgQc= Original-Received: by 10.42.154.69 with SMTP id p5mr17303109icw.11.1323823368149; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:42:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.42.217.6 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:42:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87borc9h3a.fsf@pobox.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: nc5YKhZJlj22S-hgv9eatrl9f6c X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:13075 Archived-At: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Andy Wingo wrote: > On Wed 14 Dec 2011 00:00, Noah Lavine writes: > >> I haven't really been contributing to this thread, so please take my >> opinion with a grain of salt. But it does appear to me that we should >> support capturing a lexical environment, as Mark and David describe. >> >> So I took a look at ice-9/eval.scm.... > > The details of the interpreter's implementation are not public, I'm > afraid. =A0The interpreter does its job, but not quickly, and any change > to make it better would involve a change to the environment > representation. Oh, I just realized that I miscommunicated very badly. When I said "print nicely", I imagined something like "". So we could hide the implementation inside the record type. Noah