* Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions?
@ 2011-04-19 1:15 CRLF0710
2011-04-19 3:30 ` Noah Lavine
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From: CRLF0710 @ 2011-04-19 1:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guile-devel
Guile 2.0 has been there for some time. Why there's still not any
guile-2.0 package in linux distributions?
Did they have trouble packaging it?
By the way, is the .go file portable? Building them(rnrs, ice-9 etc)
during compiling guile takes so looooong...
Thanks
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CrLF.0710
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* Re: Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions?
2011-04-19 1:15 Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions? CRLF0710
@ 2011-04-19 3:30 ` Noah Lavine
2011-04-19 5:08 ` CRLF0710
2011-04-19 15:24 ` Dmitry Dzhus
2011-04-21 12:00 ` Andy Wingo
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From: Noah Lavine @ 2011-04-19 3:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: CRLF0710; +Cc: guile-devel
I don't know about the packaging, but I think the .go files depend on
the endianness of the machine but nothing else. So you should be able
to move them between different little-endian or big-endian machines
(unless I'm wrong). But it seems much safer to me to just compile
things. You shouldn't have to do it more than once unless you develop
Guile.
Good luck,
Noah
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM, CRLF0710 <crlf0710@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guile 2.0 has been there for some time. Why there's still not any
> guile-2.0 package in linux distributions?
> Did they have trouble packaging it?
>
> By the way, is the .go file portable? Building them(rnrs, ice-9 etc)
> during compiling guile takes so looooong...
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> CrLF.0710
>
>
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* Re: Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions?
2011-04-19 3:30 ` Noah Lavine
@ 2011-04-19 5:08 ` CRLF0710
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From: CRLF0710 @ 2011-04-19 5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Noah Lavine; +Cc: guile-devel
Thanks. I want to deploy guile 2.0 to about ten machines ( of our
development team members'). Since they have the same endianness maybe
i'll give this a try...
But now i worry most about the deployment of our final software. The
deployment will be in September. Well, most of the dependencies can be
solved using APT and similar tools within ten minutes, with guile
alone may takes more than a hour to be compiled on every user
machine(if there's still no guile-2.0 package by that time)...
Any suggestions? Thanks a lot.
2011/4/19 Noah Lavine <noah.b.lavine@gmail.com>:
> I don't know about the packaging, but I think the .go files depend on
> the endianness of the machine but nothing else. So you should be able
> to move them between different little-endian or big-endian machines
> (unless I'm wrong). But it seems much safer to me to just compile
> things. You shouldn't have to do it more than once unless you develop
> Guile.
>
> Good luck,
> Noah
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM, CRLF0710 <crlf0710@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Guile 2.0 has been there for some time. Why there's still not any
>> guile-2.0 package in linux distributions?
>> Did they have trouble packaging it?
>>
>> By the way, is the .go file portable? Building them(rnrs, ice-9 etc)
>> during compiling guile takes so looooong...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> CrLF.0710
>>
>>
>
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CrLF.0710
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* Re: Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions?
2011-04-19 1:15 Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions? CRLF0710
2011-04-19 3:30 ` Noah Lavine
@ 2011-04-19 15:24 ` Dmitry Dzhus
2011-04-20 13:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-04-21 12:00 ` Andy Wingo
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From: Dmitry Dzhus @ 2011-04-19 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guile-devel
CRLF0710 wrote:
> Guile 2.0 has been there for some time. Why there's still not any
> guile-2.0 package in linux distributions?
There's a Guile 2.0 ebuild in Gentoo Portage main tree, also Lisp team
provides ebuilds for building trunk version of Guile.
> Did they have trouble packaging it?
Building Guile 2.0 is not really different from building 1.x series, so
the answer is no.
There're several unresolved issues like uncertainty regarding slotting
(installing 2.0 along with legacy series; there's a collision between
the two in documentation files) or several ./configure flags (posix and
modules) which seem obsolete and can cause a failure while building
Guile. We're sensitive on providing people with all the handles to
configure their packages and in this case it's unclear whether the flags
are of no use anymore at all or just broken.
--
Happy Hacking.
http://dzhus.org
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* Re: Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions?
2011-04-19 15:24 ` Dmitry Dzhus
@ 2011-04-20 13:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2011-04-20 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guile-devel
Hello!
Dmitry Dzhus <dima@dzhus.org> writes:
> CRLF0710 wrote:
>> Guile 2.0 has been there for some time. Why there's still not any
>> guile-2.0 package in linux distributions?
>
> There's a Guile 2.0 ebuild in Gentoo Portage main tree, also Lisp team
> provides ebuilds for building trunk version of Guile.
Not to mention that NixOS GNU/Linux has had Guile 2.0 since day 1! :-)
Ludo’.
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* Re: Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions?
2011-04-19 1:15 Just to mention: Why there's still not any guile-2.0 packages in linux distributions? CRLF0710
2011-04-19 3:30 ` Noah Lavine
2011-04-19 15:24 ` Dmitry Dzhus
@ 2011-04-21 12:00 ` Andy Wingo
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andy Wingo @ 2011-04-21 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: CRLF0710; +Cc: guile-devel
On Tue 19 Apr 2011 03:15, CRLF0710 <crlf0710@gmail.com> writes:
> Guile 2.0 has been there for some time. Why there's still not any
> guile-2.0 package in linux distributions?
> Did they have trouble packaging it?
It's only been out for a couple months, and there are a number of
reverse dependencies, so switching from 1.8 to 2.0 takes some time for a
distro, I think.
That said, work is underway in Debian and Fedora. The hold-up in debian
was libgc, which is now fixed I think.
Andy
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