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From: Noah Lavine <noah.b.lavine@gmail.com>
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: on the importance of names (was: proposal: enhance and rename guile-tools)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:11:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJ=HBFf4ZukzsN5p6hx9dHRP2k1CrKy5GpBbQP@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m38vvw50i6.fsf_-_@unquote.localdomain>

The coolness is irrefutable. :-)

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> On Mon 21 Mar 2011 00:16, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> writes:
>>
>>> "Guido, compile my-file.scm."
>>
>> Is the pun[*] intended?  :-)
>
> OK, point taken.  Too bad though!
>
> I have another proposal, but first I want to elaborate on why I think
> guile-tools is a silly name.
>
> First of all it's not a good noun.  I don't know how to capitalize it,
> for example.  Guile-Tools ?  Too camel-casey.  Guile-tools ?  It's long
> and slanted, like a boat launching ramp.  guile-tools ?  But then it
> doesn't look like the start of a sentence.
>
> Also, how do you feel when you say "guile-tools compile foo.scm" ?  I
> kinda feel like a tool!  Its clunkiness makes me feel clunky.  Not good!
>
> These difficulties have real repercussions.  A clunky name leads us to
> avoid mentioning the thing, which isn't good either for the tool itself
> or for peoples' awareness of the tool.
>
> Names are important, is what I'm saying.
>
> So!  My new proposal is "guild".
>
>  guild update
>  guild compile foo.scm
>  guild install fmt
>
> Guild has the usual advantages of being short and having a name that
> shares structure with Guile.  Of course there is the disadvantage that
> it's only one character away, and my fingers are programmed to type "e"
> after "guil", so there would be some retraining.
>
> But that doesn't mention the real advantage of "guild", which is how you
> feel when you type it or tell it to someone: that you pertain to a
> secret society of wizards!  Who wouldn't want to pertain to such a
> guild?  I feel awesomer just for having typed it.
>
> Also if the main purpose of the tool will be, besides compilation,
> interaction with our CPAN, then it really will be about a collective of
> people producing spel(l)s (cf. Barski's "Casting SPELs with Lisp").
> Sweet!
>
> What do folks think about this harebrained idea?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
> --
> http://wingolog.org/
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-19 11:36 proposal: enhance and rename guile-tools Andy Wingo
2011-03-20 23:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-21  8:27   ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-21 11:51     ` nalaginrut
2011-03-21 11:58       ` nalaginrut
2011-03-21 12:16     ` Barry Fishman
2011-03-21 14:10       ` Neil Jerram
2011-03-21 19:28         ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-21 21:50           ` Neil Jerram
2011-03-30 10:51             ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-30 18:27               ` Neil Jerram
2011-03-21 16:32       ` dsmich
2011-03-21 15:12     ` David Pirotte
2011-03-21 15:00   ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2011-03-30 11:08   ` on the importance of names (was: proposal: enhance and rename guile-tools) Andy Wingo
2011-03-30 13:11     ` Noah Lavine [this message]
2011-03-30 13:15     ` nalaginrut
2011-03-30 15:52     ` on the importance of names Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-30 16:25       ` Andy Wingo
2011-03-31  9:32         ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-05-31 20:38           ` Andy Wingo
2011-05-31 21:55             ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-03-30 18:11     ` Neil Jerram

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