From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: Daniel Kraft <d@domob.eu>, guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>,
Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Subject: Re: Elisp performance
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:58:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A4FE4852-B502-4C0C-AA99-E6C10FE2AC07@raeburn.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3eirrevd2.fsf@pobox.com>
On Aug 4, 2009, at 06:17, Andy Wingo wrote:
> Hello!
>
> (Was away for the weekend, but back hacking all week now.)
Welcome back!
> On Thu 30 Jul 2009 22:18, Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net> writes:
> Daniel Kraft <d@domob.eu> writes:
>>
>>> Lambda arguments are still always dynamically bound, which is
>>> quite a
>>> pity as it inhibits tail-call optimization;
> Indeed, a pity. Though self-tail calls can be optimized... still,
> irritating.
In the compiler, or in the byte-code engine?
The Emacs byte compiler does not do self-tail call optimizations.
Since the function value of a symbol can be copied out and/or replaced
(and Emacs ships with the "advice" package which does both), the
symbol's function value may wind up not being the function body being
compiled; turning a self-tail call into a jump back to the beginning
would cause observable behavior changes from what happens now.
On the other hand, I haven't looked at what elisp compiles to in
Guile; maybe it's possible to have the byte-code engine detect when
you're making a tail call to yourself (such as recursive calls when
the function value slot hasn't been messed with) and optimize them on
the fly?
Ken
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-04 15:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-29 12:50 Elisp performance Daniel Kraft
2009-07-30 3:23 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-07-31 5:15 ` Daniel Kraft
2009-08-04 15:51 ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-30 20:18 ` Neil Jerram
2009-07-30 23:54 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-07-31 6:09 ` Daniel Kraft
2009-08-04 10:26 ` Andy Wingo
2009-08-04 10:26 ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-31 6:02 ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-31 9:59 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-07-31 15:14 ` Daniel Kraft
2009-08-04 11:14 ` Andy Wingo
2009-08-04 11:00 ` Andy Wingo
2009-08-08 22:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-08-04 10:17 ` Andy Wingo
2009-08-04 10:54 ` Daniel Kraft
2009-08-04 15:58 ` Ken Raeburn [this message]
2009-08-04 15:47 ` Andy Wingo
2009-08-04 16:12 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-04 19:28 ` Andy Wingo
2009-08-04 16:17 ` Daniel Kraft
2009-08-04 19:25 ` Andy Wingo
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