From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Tuexen Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Initial SCTP support for the upcoming 1.6.5 release Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:34:14 +0200 Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8A0C1C48-01AC-11D9-B0E7-000D932C78D8@lurchi.franken.de> References: <28C61BE4-EB92-11D8-9129-000D932C78D8@lurchi.franken.de> <22A81E2B-ED67-11D8-84CE-000D932C78D8@lurchi.franken.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1094657722 15262 80.91.224.253 (8 Sep 2004 15:35:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 08 17:35:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C54TN-00023N-00 for ; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:35:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C54Ye-0007sl-L0 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C54YW-0007qG-4G for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C54YT-0007q4-J7 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:40:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C54YT-0007q1-Gk for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:40:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.175.24.27] (helo=ilsa.franken.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1C54Sv-00081K-W0 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:34:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.167.116.166] (unknown [217.167.116.166]) by ilsa.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A9D245D0; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:34:30 +0200 (CEST) (KNF account authenticated via SMTP-AUTH) In-Reply-To: Original-To: Marius Vollmer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:4104 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:4104 Marius, that is fine. I have a library version which I will release as soon as 1.6.5 is released. I think this also means that I can release new version of the lib whenever I want. This helps me because there is then no need to wait for 1.6.6 to get new features of the SCTP stuff accessible via guile. However, a Linux distribution which includes SCTP (in the kernel or as a kernel module) without providing the libsctp is definitely broken, but this might happen. And I do not know if anyone is checking this. I'm not doing this, since I'm focused on BSD and Mac OS X. Because the code for the core and the lib is pretty similar we can include the SCTP at any time later if things change and you think it should be included. Thank you very much for your support. Best regards Michael On Sep 8, 2004, at 17:03 Uhr, Marius Vollmer wrote: > Michael Tuexen writes: > >> Let me know what you think or if you have any questions. > > I am now fairly convinced that we should not provide full support for > SCTP in guile-core. > > The reason is simply that this support depends on libsctp which might > not be available. Also, absence of libsctp is no good indicator that > the system does not support SCTP at all, the library might just happen > not to be installed. > > We could make SCTP optional, but I really think that Guile's core API > should have as few optional pieces as possible. Having to recompile > Guile just to get SCTP support is not right. > > We could make Guile depend on libsctp, but that doesn't seem right > either. libsctp is not essential to Guile in the way that libgmp is, > say. > > Distributors such as Debian would have to decide whether to make Guile > depend on libsctp or whether to exclude sctp altogether. Making SCTP > support an add-on to Guile avoids making this decision. > _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel