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From: Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: snarfer guard macro name decision: SCM_MAGIC_SNARFER
Date: 15 Mar 2002 22:12:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zo19lemy.fsf@zagadka.ping.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16ldwT-0007Yb-00@giblet>

Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@giblet.glug.org> writes:

>    From: Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de>
>    Date: 14 Mar 2002 20:09:36 +0100
> 
>    > this is not guaranteed to work; when invoked w/ "foo > out.x", the shell
>    > does indeed create out.x first, satisfying most CPPs' requirements for
>    > out.x existing to be #included.
> 
>    Sorry, I was confused.  I still am, for that matter.  How can it
>    happen that during
> 
>        guile-snarf foo.c >foo.x
> 
>    the file foo.x does not exist?  It should get created by the shell
>    before guile-snarf is executed.

Ouch.  Boy, I was really really dense here.  Of course the actual
command that is run is not "guile-snarf foo.c >foo.x" but

    guile-snarf foo.c >foo.tmp.x && mv foo.tmp.x foo.x

No fancy buffer issues or race conditions needed to explain the
lossage...  People have been using the #ifdef SCM_MAGIC_SNARFER trick
to work around this, and we need to make that fix work again.

I now also understand why writing to stdout is so bad and why the "-o"
option is so much better.  (it's taken a while, sorry Thien-Thi.)

>    Yes, but it is still easier not to change existing code that makes use
>    of the old behavior of guile-snarf.
> 
> here, the code that needs changing is primarily in makefiles, which are
> not as big a pain to update as C source, there being fewer makefiles
> than source files typically.

But it's still easier not to change the snarfing rules.  Arguing for
an evil by citing a larger, unrelated evil is not really
convincing. ;-)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-15 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-13  7:51 snarfer guard macro name decision: SCM_MAGIC_SNARFER Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-13  9:26 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-13 19:15   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-13 21:28     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-13 22:00       ` Rob Browning
2002-03-13 22:58         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-14  0:12           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-14  5:44             ` Rob Browning
2002-03-14 18:48             ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-14 20:44               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-14 23:35                 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-15  4:26                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-15 15:56                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-15 21:19                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-14  5:56           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-14  6:58             ` Rob Browning
2002-03-14  7:17               ` Rob Browning
2002-03-14  9:32                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-14 23:40             ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-14 19:09       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-14 22:43         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-03-14 23:31           ` Rob Browning
2002-03-15 21:12           ` Marius Vollmer [this message]
2002-03-15 21:33             ` Rob Browning
2002-03-15 21:58               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-17 17:07                 ` Rob Browning
2002-03-18  0:07                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-18  2:52                     ` Rob Browning
2002-03-20 21:11                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-03-21 16:23                         ` Rob Browning
2002-04-24 20:07                           ` Marius Vollmer
2002-04-24 20:42                             ` Rob Browning

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