From: ludovic.courtes@laas.fr (Ludovic Courtès)
To: "Julian Graham" <joolean@gmail.com>
Cc: Guile Development <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [r6rs-discuss] Implementors' intentions concerning R6RS
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:12:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zlxzmnqp.fsf@laas.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2bc5f8210710300801o6de398aeg968bcb73bb0cc5e@mail.gmail.com> (Julian Graham's message of "Tue\, 30 Oct 2007 11\:01\:05 -0400")
Hi,
Adding my two cents to the "wish list"...
"Julian Graham" <joolean@gmail.com> writes:
> Well, for what it's worth, faster live "interpretation" of Scheme is
> really important to me, whether that means some kind of Scheme JIT
> compilation a la GNU Lightning or whatever.
I believe the major interpreter performance improvements are to be
gained by algorithmic optimizations (e.g., closure invocation, variable
lookup), rather than micro-optimizations such as JIT. That said, JIT is
a fascinating domain. :-)
> * Faster GC (this is probably pretty similar to "faster interpretation")
I'm (still) interested in comparing the space/time tradeoff in Guile and
the `libgc'-based Guile. We'll see.
Besides, I think using libgc would yield a number of practical
improvements for the end user: `scm_set_smob_mark ()' would become
useless in most cases and so would `scm_dynwind_free ()',
`scm_set_smob_free ()' could be avoided almost entirely in guile-core,
memory leaks would become less likely in the presence of non-local
exists, marking a tree-like structure would just work (see
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.bugs/3558), etc.
> * Integrated debugging and profiling tools
>
> * Guile was initially proposed as a multi-language scripting platform;
> is that still part of the mission?
As Neil suggested, I'd say "no" for the time being.
> * Not related to 1.9 itself, but maybe a cleanup / redesign of the web
> page, including a cleanup of active projects, better integration with
> Savannah for bug tracking, etc.
Right. I've been meaning to update the projects page for a while
actually...
> * Thorough updating of the documentation
>
> * Integration with Free Software VMs -- Bigloo currently lets you
> compile Scheme to CIL; it would be neat if you could do the same with
> Guile and then run on top of DotGNU. Or Kaffe. Or anything else.
I'm not too fond of CIL/Java bytecode, but choosing the bytecode format
should not be the most difficult thing. ;-)
OK, so my goals for 1.9 would be:
* Evaluate `libgc'-based Guile (see above).
* Rewrite the interpreter in Scheme (or a subset thereof), with a
tiny Scheme-to-C compiler. That could be done in such a way that we
could re-use, e.g., the memoization and unmemoization code that
already exists in the first step.
* Provide a documented C doc snarfing tool, written in Scheme, with a
public Scheme doc snarfing API. I started looking at it based on
the modules I wrote for doc-snarfing in Guile-{Reader,Avahi,GnuTLS}.
* Provide some Unicode support. The hardest part, I think, is that
we'd probably need to rewrite/extend the C port API.
Comments?
Thanks,
Ludovic.
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2007-10-28 18:16 ` [r6rs-discuss] Implementors' intentions concerning R6RS Neil Jerram
2007-10-28 18:29 ` Elf
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2007-10-28 19:28 ` Neil Jerram
2007-10-29 15:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-10-29 21:51 ` Neil Jerram
2007-10-30 9:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-10-30 15:01 ` Julian Graham
2007-10-30 23:15 ` Neil Jerram
2007-10-31 14:55 ` Julian Graham
2007-10-31 13:12 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2007-11-06 21:54 ` Neil Jerram
2007-11-11 15:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-12 20:29 ` Neil Jerram
2007-11-12 20:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-10-30 22:53 ` Neil Jerram
2007-10-31 10:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-02 20:53 ` Klaus Schilling
2007-11-03 11:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-03 17:49 ` Klaus Schilling
2007-10-30 23:55 ` Andy Wingo
2007-11-03 18:15 ` Klaus Schilling
2007-11-04 12:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
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