From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: Guile Devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Including sjson (formerly (ice-9 json)) and fash.scm in guile proper?
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 14:53:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zied7v71.fsf@dustycloud.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3tyaryg.fsf@netris.org>
Mark H Weaver writes:
> I wrote:
>> Most of the modifications you've made are good, but I'm very
>> uncomfortable with the use of #nil in this API. [...]
>
> Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> writes:
>> Oh! No you got it backwards, the library *was* using #nil initially,
>> and I modified it to use 'null now instead. :)
>
> Ah, my mistake. Excellent!
>
> Having now looked more closely, I'm mostly happy with the API, except
> for one issue: I don't like the way fash support was hacked in, with the
> 'use-fash' flag and the (if use-fash [fash-code] [alist-code]) sprinkled
> around. If this truly needs to be done within the json library itself
> (which I wonder), then I'd prefer to generalize it to support any
> dictionary data structure, and thereby remove the dependency on fashes.
I agree that it's pretty hacky. Allowing other dictionary structures is
fine by me.
> My main concern about fashes, besides the fact that Andy hasn't yet
> proposed adding them to Guile himself, is that the implementation is
> very complex, and I'd like to achieve some degree of confidence in its
> correctness before adding it. I'd also tend to favor adding a simpler,
> truly immutable dictionary data structure based on Phil Bagwell's HAMTs
> (Hash Array Mapped Tries) to eliminate the need for thread
> synchronization, but I'm open to suggestions.
I don't really understand enough of the field to really know what the
right direction is. I do know that I need something that's not O(n) for
json-ld processing, though I guess one option always would have been to
read in the sexp structure and transform it before doing all that
processing. I've long wanted a better immutable dictionary
structure in Guile though, but am open to what it would be.
> Anyway, since writing my previous message in this thread, I've started
> carefully reviewing the code, making modifications as I go. At this
> point, my proposed modifications have become quite extensive. So far,
> I've reworked the code to greatly reduce heap allocations, support
> arbitrary dictionary types (removing the fash dependency, while still
> allowing its use), and fix various bugs (e.g. relying on unspecified
> evaluation order, failure to handle 12-character hex escapes properly,
> producing and accepting invalid JSON in some cases, etc).
>
> I'll followup with another message when I've completed my proposed
> revisions. Feel free to ping me if it takes more than a week.
Wow, exciting!
>>> Otherwise, I'm generally in favor of incorporating this library into
>>> Guile, after we make sure that it is robust against malicious inputs.
>>
>> Okay, cool! The other thing is to add more specific error messages, as
>> discussed.
>
> Indeed, better error messages would be a good thing.
>
>> What examples of malicious inputs should we test against?
>
> I'm mostly trying to address that by careful code review.
Yay! Thank you for doing it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-15 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-08 23:17 Including sjson (formerly (ice-9 json)) and fash.scm in guile proper? Christopher Allan Webber
2017-05-12 19:15 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-05-14 1:30 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-05-15 18:35 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-05-15 19:53 ` Christopher Allan Webber [this message]
2017-06-20 22:47 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-06-20 23:18 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-06-20 23:50 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-06-22 16:26 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-06-03 13:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
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