From: Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.ping.de>
Subject: Smart variables, dumb variables
Date: 13 Aug 2002 22:06:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y9bajzfp.fsf@zagadka.ping.de> (raw)
Hi,
currently, our global variables are strictly passive containers.
Accessing a variable is just a memory reference. I think we need to
keep this for performance reasons.
However, we might also want to have more fancy variables. One might
want to get a notification when a variable is set, or one might want
to fetch the real value from some indirect location.
For example, Emacs has the ability to forward references to Elisp
variables to C variables. C code can use a normal "int" variable,
say, and Elisp code can use that variable as well. Translating
between Elisp representation and C representation of values is done
transparently, when Elisp accesses the variable. RMS convinced me
that that would be a nice feature for Guile as well, in general.
One might say that it is probably better to not use variables for
this, but rather have a more abstract interface using setter and
getter functions. But when designed carefully. the need to use
stters/getters for things that are in all respects just variables can
also feel awkward. A good example are the forwarding variables of
Emacs. It shouldn't really be visible to Elisp code that the
variables are forwarded to C variables (although they don't allow
non-integer values, thus making them different from other Elisp
variables, hmm).
I'd like to propose a slight modification to our variables that would
allow us to cleanly mess with what variables exactly are in the
future.
I would add a 'flags' field to variable smob (there is room for it),
with the following flags defined initially:
- SCM_F_VARIABLE_DUMB
When set, the variable is 'dumb' and can be referened and set
with SCM_DUMB_VARIABLE_REF and SCM_DUMB_VARIABLE_SET,
respectively. When it is not set, you need to call
scm_variable_ref and scm_variable_set_x.
- SCM_F_VARIABLE_READONLY
When set, the variable can not be set. You are not allowed to
use SCM_DUMB_VARIABLE_SET and scm_variable_set_x will result in
an error.
A future execution model (that is slowly forming in my head) will make
it so that most variable flags can be tested at compile time. Thus, a
compiler can emit more efficient code for dumb variables.
One possible next step would be to somehow involve Goops in this and
turn scm_variable_ref into a generic function, the way scm_sum is
already.
Opinions?
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-13 20:06 Marius Vollmer [this message]
2002-08-14 8:07 ` Smart variables, dumb variables tomas
2002-08-14 19:35 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-14 20:28 ` tomas
2002-08-14 20:48 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-14 21:06 ` rm
2002-08-14 21:09 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 8:06 ` rm
2002-08-15 8:01 ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-08-15 9:51 ` rm
2002-08-15 14:44 ` Rob Browning
2002-08-15 16:34 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 17:27 ` rm
2002-08-15 19:43 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 20:02 ` rm
2002-08-15 20:02 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 20:25 ` rm
2002-08-17 11:59 ` Neil Jerram
2002-08-19 23:29 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-20 12:01 ` rm
2002-08-26 22:06 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 10:52 ` tomas
2002-08-15 16:36 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-14 21:31 ` Rob Browning
2002-08-14 21:45 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 2:43 ` Rob Browning
2002-08-15 6:29 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-08-15 14:38 ` Rob Browning
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