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From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
To: "Julian Graham" <joolean@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: srfi-18 requirements
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:29:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y7caozzo.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2bc5f8210711302108g12542615j2371d307a873d810@mail.gmail.com> (Julian Graham's message of "Sat, 1 Dec 2007 00:08:40 -0500")

"Julian Graham" <joolean@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Ludovic,
>
> I'm almost finished making the changes -- in fact, I've got everything
> fixed except for this one:
>
>> I'd use pairs or records for exception objects rather than just symbols
>> since symbols can always be forged. 

They can't be forged if you use a non-interned symbol: (make-symbol
"srfi-18").  I had this in mind, for the same reason, for srfi-34.scm,
I'm not sure now why that didn't happen.  Possibly because I wasn't
completely sure whether it was the Right Thing to exclude someone
doing:

(catch 'srfi-34
       (lambda ()
         ...
         (raise obj)
         ...)
       (lambda (key obj)
         ...))

>> So we'd have, e.g.:
>>
>>   (define uncaught-exception?
>>     (let ((exception-type (cons 'uncaught-exception #f)))
>>       (lambda (obj)
>>         (and (pair? obj)
>>              (eq? (car obj) exception-type)))))
>
> The thing is, I can't throw with a key that's not a symbol.  I've been
> trying to rig up something using SRFI-34-style exceptions (key =
> 'srfi-34, args = anything) -- provided I can make that work, would
> that be okay?

It's a bit of pain that srfi-18 doesn't refer forward to srfi-34/35.
Obviously the exception system of srfi-18 is very _like_ that of
srfi-34/35, but srfi-18 doesn't say whether its exceptions have to be
implemented using srfi-34/35.

I guess that doesn't actually matter, though.  srfi-18 simply
requires its exception primitives to be implemented somehow.  If it
works semantically for them to be implemented using srfi-34/35, I
think it would make good sense for us to do that.

Regards,
        Neil



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-04 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-11  1:54 srfi-18 requirements Julian Graham
2007-10-12  8:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-10-12 15:31   ` Julian Graham
2007-10-15 22:26     ` Julian Graham
2007-10-15 22:35       ` Stephen Compall
2007-10-15 22:47         ` Julian Graham
2007-10-29 14:37           ` Julian Graham
2007-11-26 18:11             ` Julian Graham
2007-11-27  9:14               ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-28 18:23             ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-11-28 18:55               ` Julian Graham
2007-12-01  5:08               ` Julian Graham
2007-12-01 10:21                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-12-02  3:59                   ` Julian Graham
2007-12-04 22:20                     ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-04 22:29                 ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2007-12-11  4:20                   ` Julian Graham
2007-12-18  4:30               ` Julian Graham
2007-12-28 18:46                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-12-28 19:08                   ` Julian Graham
2007-12-28 22:35                     ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-30 11:04                 ` Neil Jerram
2007-12-30 20:38                   ` Julian Graham
2008-01-01 19:09                     ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-04  5:01                       ` Julian Graham
2008-01-05  0:30                         ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-06 21:41                           ` Julian Graham
2008-01-08 23:11                             ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-11  2:39                               ` Julian Graham
2008-01-17  1:48                                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-19 20:10                                   ` Julian Graham
2008-01-23 22:46                                     ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-23 23:23                                       ` Julian Graham
2008-01-25  1:07                                         ` Neil Jerram
2008-01-25  1:38                                           ` Julian Graham
2008-01-28  2:06                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-02-03  0:30                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-05  6:27                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-02-07  1:23                                                   ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-07  3:06                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-02-07 23:26                                                       ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-07 23:33                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-02-07 23:38                                                     ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-08  0:04                                                       ` Julian Graham
2008-02-11  5:14                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-02-19 22:48                                                           ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-20  2:10                                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-02-22  0:33                                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-22  4:14                                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-02-24  9:41                                                                   ` Neil Jerram
2008-02-24 18:17                                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-02-24 23:29                                                                       ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-01 19:56                                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-03-08 16:34                                                                           ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-11  4:02                                                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-03-22 18:55                                                                               ` Julian Graham
2008-03-23 23:57                                                                                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-24 22:03                                                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-03-26 15:55                                                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-04-03  0:18                                                                                   ` Neil Jerram
2008-04-03 19:07                                                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-04-09 21:29                                                                                       ` Neil Jerram
2008-04-14  0:43                                                                                         ` Julian Graham
2008-05-14  1:23                                                                                           ` Julian Graham
2008-05-14 21:13                                                                                             ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-14 23:11                                                                                           ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-15  5:05                                                                                             ` Julian Graham
2008-05-24 11:42                                                                                               ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-24 13:55                                                                                                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-25  2:07                                                                                                 ` Julian Graham
2008-05-31 21:41                                                                                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-02  4:48                                                                                                   ` Julian Graham
2008-06-21  5:03                                                                                                     ` Julian Graham
2008-06-30 17:51                                                                                                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-01-08 23:41                             ` Neil Jerram

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