From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Implement SRFI-111 Boxes Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:31:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4zyowa1.fsf@pobox.com> References: <87a9elkjmo.fsf@netris.org> <87txctzpjy.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <874n4tlka7.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3bjtevu.fsf@pobox.com> <87vbv2i55a.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjkeqdc5.fsf@pobox.com> <87ior281x0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395779490 27215 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2014 20:31:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 25 21:31:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSY0Z-000242-7j for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:31:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSY0Y-0005ft-Rb for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSY0S-0005f1-6H for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSY0N-000406-GE for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:32 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:45524 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSY0N-0003zz-CX; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:27 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C82611136; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=ww8VJJVbKXdy gBIpAOV2izdGVLg=; b=IvlaLM2UYE9N6nuyBkxOb4XxLMC7a/vTY3X3IotFlf8M FdOvhQKwI5J+4qp8wFie3o1ARYwA23WSmQQJSKoAuDXFCBPkmgGJi62uQ6FwAmHn MxmMyk/tCvDYYvfzaDbEavEAJkcN6mbE/Bwa7H57ADQLO8bupuVQ1Xui6j2gRcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=V+O6fA XSooZyi5schTo78w3euX4mBaFUsKD6mQwUC0aFRCEQ8DMI2ctIjP3Fv/rqxEVST3 1Ic9QtWPBr9Y29TA4iCw25rCHA/SDC1P3vPQ+b4BS5wboXdrrpMzngZeQbq8S6sR lzewi59DLnlnfmy4nibZZ4WqxalKyvuxdYWVU= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7547911135; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from badger (unknown [88.160.190.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4BDD11134; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ior281x0.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:21:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 6F4E00C4-B45C-11E3-8851-873F0E5B5709-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 208.72.237.25 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:17014 Archived-At: On Tue 25 Mar 2014 21:21, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: >>> However, it could perhaps break code >> >> In what way? > > =E2=80=98variable?=E2=80=99 would suddenly match any SRFI-111 box. I would be OK with this FWIW -- eventually we could deprecate variable? (though that would happen later in 2.2 I would think). >> Perhaps we are miscommunicating -- I would change what we currently call >> "variables" to be "boxes". WDYT? > > You mean just the name, or making them SRFI-111 boxes? I mean making SRFI-111 boxes the same as Guile variables, and renaming Guile variables to be "boxes", and eventually deprecating the old variable names. > Anyway, I don=E2=80=99t feel strongly about this particular point, but I = think > we=E2=80=99ve been deprecating a lot lately. Have you noticed it in your non-core code? (Out of curiosity.) Andy --=20 http://wingolog.org/