From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guile's I/O procedures should *not* do thread synchronization
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 02:08:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4zjt2gh.fsf@yeeloong.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbv0oibe.fsf@pobox.com> (Andy Wingo's message of "Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:45:09 +0100")
Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> writes:
>>>> However, if we promise to do thread synchronization, we will condemn
>>>> Guile to forever having dog slow 'read-char', 'peek-char', 'write-char',
>>>> 'get-u8', 'peek-u8', and 'put-u8' operations.
>>>
>>> I think you are wrong about "dog slow". Uncontended mutexes are fast,
>>
>> I did some benchmarks of 'putchar' vs 'putchar_unlocked' in C, without
>> contention. I think it's fair to assume that the GCC and GLIBC folks
>> did a reasonably good job of making both of these as fast as they could.
>>
>> With gcc -O2, I tested two variants of this program: one with 'putchar'
>> and one with 'putchar_unlocked'. On my YeeLoong (mips64el w/ N32 ABI),
>> the 'putchar_unlocked' version is faster by a factor of 26.3.
>
> On my i7-2620M, the difference is only a factor of 3.0.
>
> Now I think I understand your perspective; 26x is terrible. But surely
> this is an architecture problem, and not a Guile problem? The world
> will only get more multithreaded, and ignoring that does no one any
> service.
Now that I have access to the GCC Compile Farm, I repeated these
benchmarks on a variety of machines, and here are the results:
Ratio CPU
=======================
26.3 Loongson 2F
14.0 PowerPC (Power7)
13.7 Loongson 3A
9.33 ARMv6l
6.47 UltraSparc IIe
5.09 AMD Athlon II
4.27 AMD Opteron
3.46 Core 2 Duo P8600
=======================
Mark
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-06 6:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-25 11:14 [PATCH] Add observation that ports are not thread-safe Diogo F. S. Ramos
2014-03-25 14:14 ` Andy Wingo
2014-03-25 17:10 ` Diogo F. S. Ramos
2014-03-25 19:39 ` Andy Wingo
2014-03-25 20:36 ` Diogo F. S. Ramos
2014-04-15 11:24 ` Diogo F. S. Ramos
2014-03-26 5:10 ` Guile's I/O procedures should *not* do thread synchronization Mark H Weaver
2014-03-26 8:25 ` Andy Wingo
2014-03-26 15:32 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-26 19:45 ` Andy Wingo
2014-04-06 6:08 ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2014-04-08 20:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
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