From: ludovic.courtes@laas.fr (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Cc: Guile-Devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Unbuffered socket I/O
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:10:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wt21cosk.fsf@laas.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d53u7z6k.fsf@zip.com.au> (Kevin Ryde's message of "Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:24:51 +1100")
Hi,
Kevin Ryde <user42@zip.com.au> writes:
> ludovic.courtes@laas.fr (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>>
>> (uniform-vector-read! vec port)))
>
> Slackness in the implementation of that function. It knows a size to
> read and should come out as a read() system call of that size. Yet it
> always goes through the port buffer.
I believe it's a feature, not some "slackness". ;-)
The function is meant to read from _any_ kind of input port. Thus, it
can definitely not use the `read ()' system call to that end. Instead,
it rightfully uses one of the two public functions available to read
from an arbitrary port: `scm_getc ()' and `scm_c_read ()'.
> read-string!/partial is much better in that respect. Maybe that func
> should be loosened up to work on non-fports too, that could be nice.
>
> It's a bit of a failing of the ptab port functions that there's no
> "read N bytes", but that needn't prevent uniform-vector-read! doing
> the right thing on fports.
There's `scm_c_read ()' for "read N bytes", but it translates into N
calls to `scm_getc ()'. If the port is unbuffered, then each invocation
of `scm_getc ()' translates in one `scm_fill_input ()' call, which in
turn translates in one `select ()' and one `read ()' of size 1. I think
_this_ is the issue, not the fact that `uniform-vector-read!' can read
from any kind of port.
IMO it feels wrong to dismiss the port abstraction (e.g., by testing for
fports and using fport-specific I/O methods) just to work around this
performance problem.
> Could also think if those calls should then cope with O_NONBLOCK
> too, by sleeping in select() if finding there's nothing to read yet.
> On a single read call I would say let it throw an error, but if the
> aim is to block until the requested size then it's easy enough to
> cope.
I noticed that `fport_fill_input ()' would raise an error when reading
from a non-blocking file descriptor where input is not available (i.e.,
when `read ()' returns -1 with ERRNO == EWOULDBLOCK). Thus it must be
inconvenient (at best) to use the port I/O functions on a port whose
underlying FD is in non-blocking mode. I don't know what would need to
be done to fix this.
Thanks,
Ludovic.
_______________________________________________
Guile-devel mailing list
Guile-devel@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-01 9:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-23 17:09 Unbuffered socket I/O Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-23 22:36 ` Neil Jerram
2007-02-25 22:57 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-02-26 14:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-26 20:32 ` Neil Jerram
2007-02-26 23:35 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-02-27 9:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-28 21:24 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-03-01 9:10 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2007-03-04 23:48 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-03-07 0:20 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-03-07 0:30 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-03-07 4:45 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-03-07 9:40 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-26 23:27 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-02-28 9:47 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-28 20:59 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-03-01 10:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-03-05 23:15 ` Kevin Ryde
2007-08-07 16:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2007-05-13 17:13 ` `scm_std_select ()' call in `fport_wait_for_input ()' Ludovic Courtès
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=87wt21cosk.fsf@laas.fr \
--to=ludovic.courtes@laas.fr \
--cc=guile-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=neil@ossau.uklinux.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).